The Dave & Tammy Year-End Extravaganza: What to Read, Watch, and Listen to in 2024!

Dave
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Foreign folks, welcome to the Dave and Tammy Year End Extravaganza.

Tammy
00:00:42

It's been a year for the year End Extravaganza.

Dave
00:00:46

I know, and it's so funny.

Dave
00:00:48

I've, I've noticed on social media the, The, Our.

Dave
00:00:52

Our rabbit fans, if I can call them that have said, man, dude, we cannot wait until the year End Extravaganza because that beautiful wife of your Tammy finally comes on the show and gives us something else to look out, look at beside your mug.

Dave
00:01:05

So I thought that was very nice.

Tammy
00:01:07

That's very sweet.

Dave
00:01:08

Folks, there's.

Dave
00:01:09

There's a.

Dave
00:01:10

Some fun things we're going to do this particular year, and we're going to do the show in two parts just because we got some scheduling going on.

Dave
00:01:18

We're going to do top 10 books of 2024.

Dave
00:01:22

We're going to do top 10 television shows and top 10 movies.

Dave
00:01:26

But something else we're going to add this year is top 10 podcasts.

Tammy
00:01:33

You always say top 10, and I never have 10.

Dave
00:01:37

Fair enough.

Dave
00:01:38

Well played.

Dave
00:01:38

Yes.

Dave
00:01:39

I'm going to say top 10.

Dave
00:01:40

They don't have to be top 10.

Dave
00:01:41

And by the way, here's the other thing about honey, about using the phrase top 10.

Dave
00:01:45

Somebody somewhere is going to say, dude, I.

Dave
00:01:48

I got it.

Dave
00:01:48

I didn't.

Dave
00:01:49

I didn't make you top 10.

Dave
00:01:50

Does that mean you didn't like my book?

Dave
00:01:52

Well, no, we did, you know, roughly, what, four a month?

Dave
00:01:56

So 48 books.

Dave
00:01:59

I got to boil it down to the top 10.

Dave
00:02:01

That kind of stick in this old gray matter of mine.

Tammy
00:02:05

Not everybody gets a prize.

Tammy
00:02:06

I mean, that's just the way life is.

Dave
00:02:09

All right, so.

Dave
00:02:10

So we're going to say this.

Dave
00:02:12

I.

Dave
00:02:12

I'm a.

Dave
00:02:13

Jeez.

Dave
00:02:14

At my core, I must be a rule follower because I've got 10 listed for all of them.

Dave
00:02:18

But to Tammy's point, she does.

Dave
00:02:21

She did not read 10 books this year.

Dave
00:02:23

I think it's pretty safe to assume so she can't have 10 books, but I can, because I did.

Tammy
00:02:28

And guess what?

Tammy
00:02:29

They're not all thrillers.

Tammy
00:02:32

Oh, I am breaking more rules.

Dave
00:02:35

I like it when you break rules.

Tammy
00:02:38

I'm kind of a rule follower myself, but, yeah, not in this case.

Dave
00:02:44

Let me drop this a little bit.

Dave
00:02:46

Change the lighting.

Dave
00:02:47

Oh, yeah, that's so much better.

Dave
00:02:49

All right, so here's what we're going to do.

Dave
00:02:53

Since we're running the show, we can do whatever we want.

Dave
00:02:55

I'm going to start off with.

Dave
00:02:57

Oh, first of all, let's just start off this holiday show talking about things like, what is our holiday been like so far?

Dave
00:03:06

And what are we looking forward to most for this holiday season?

Dave
00:03:11

All right, well, we do have two little munchkins that are going to hit the road and come see Momo and Popo in about a week.

Dave
00:03:22

And I cannot wait to see those happy, smiling, squealing faces.

Tammy
00:03:29

Top of the list, those two snuggled up in here with Jake and Malia.

Tammy
00:03:34

It's going to be a really, really fun holiday.

Tammy
00:03:39

And we haven't had them on our turf for a holiday.

Tammy
00:03:43

So I see lots of pool time, lots of hot.

Tammy
00:03:47

They love swimming in the hot tub.

Tammy
00:03:49

Lots of hot tub time, lots of beach time.

Tammy
00:03:53

Probably a field trip to VG Donuts.

Tammy
00:03:57

We will definitely make Christmas cutout cookies.

Tammy
00:04:02

This was a big request.

Tammy
00:04:05

I think we're going to have some popcorn.

Tammy
00:04:07

Taste, taste off.

Tammy
00:04:09

So we'll make a bunch of popcorn, different kinds, and we'll all talk about why we like what, just hang out Movie nights here at the house.

Tammy
00:04:21

Like, how cool is that?

Dave
00:04:23

Yeah.

Dave
00:04:24

Movie nights and our jammies.

Tammy
00:04:26

Yeah.

Tammy
00:04:27

I mean, movie nights will be G rated and be animated, but some of those animated storylines are pretty sweet and precious.

Dave
00:04:40

Yeah.

Dave
00:04:42

I think of.

Dave
00:04:44

It's kind of funny to say this, but is it Moana?

Tammy
00:04:48

Yeah, I think that's how you pronounce it.

Tammy
00:04:50

Yeah.

Dave
00:04:50

Not only has it done killer of the box office, but I remember the first time I saw version one, it was with the Jack and Allison, and we're sitting on the couch and it's voiced by the rock, and I don't remember the gal's name.

Dave
00:05:05

And I was surprised at how much I liked that movie.

Dave
00:05:10

Maybe it was partly because I was pulled into the Hawaiian setting, ocean and beach, but there's a great little moral to the story.

Dave
00:05:20

And.

Dave
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And I think.

Dave
00:05:21

And I know there's listeners sitting there going, duh, duh, dude, duh.

Dave
00:05:27

But I don't watch a lot of children's animation.

Dave
00:05:30

So when I did, I was like, I.

Dave
00:05:31

I like this.

Dave
00:05:32

Let's watch this again.

Dave
00:05:33

They're like, popo, we've already seen it three times.

Dave
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I'm like, okay.

Tammy
00:05:38

Some of those shows are pretty sweet.

Dave
00:05:40

Yeah.

Dave
00:05:41

All right, well, I guess that's the.

Dave
00:05:42

That's kind of the limit on that.

Dave
00:05:44

But let's.

Dave
00:05:44

Let's start off with.

Dave
00:05:46

Since we're gonna do.

Dave
00:05:47

We're gonna do top 10 shows and t.

Dave
00:05:49

TV shows and movies in a little bit.

Dave
00:05:50

But let's start off with books and podcasts, and if.

Dave
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Go ahead and reach in the fishbowl and choose which one of those you'd like to start with first books or podcasts.

Dave
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And it doesn't have to be top ten, honey.

Tammy
00:06:03

Thank goodness.

Tammy
00:06:07

Let's start with books.

Dave
00:06:09

Okay.

Dave
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How many do you have?

Dave
00:06:12

Let's do that.

Dave
00:06:12

And that way I know, because I want to intersperse.

Tammy
00:06:15

I have five.

Dave
00:06:17

Okay, well then let's do this.

Dave
00:06:20

I'm going to start, I'm going to count down to number one.

Dave
00:06:23

Does that work for you?

Tammy
00:06:24

You can count down to number one and I'll just add my books as color.

Tammy
00:06:29

How's that?

Dave
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You're so amenable.

Dave
00:06:33

All right.

Dave
00:06:34

There were 10.

Dave
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I did.

Dave
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Like I said before, we probably recorded about 48 this year.

Dave
00:06:40

But these are the 10 that have stuck out of my mind.

Dave
00:06:45

And I won't go, I won't, I won't break down the beats of the books and the artists and so forth because if you've listened to the show, you know them pretty well.

Dave
00:06:55

But I'm just going to cut to it.

Dave
00:06:56

Number 10 coming in with the Shades of Mercy with my good buddy Bruce Borges.

Dave
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That was a book I just thoroughly enjoyed and it is his, it is his follow up to the first book and it was just so much good.

Dave
00:07:11

Number nine.

Dave
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I'm just going to do two in a row right here.

Dave
00:07:14

Number nine was a late entry to the party.

Dave
00:07:17

In fact, it was only last week, but it was my good buddy Adam Hamdi, and the book was deadbeat.

Dave
00:07:25

Wow.

Tammy
00:07:28

I can interject a comment on this book.

Dave
00:07:31

Interject away, darling.

Tammy
00:07:34

I remember you sharing some feedback initially about I'm not sure where Adam's going with this.

Tammy
00:07:45

And you, you stayed with it and then all of a sudden you hit the precipice of like you were just full in and every time I turned around, you had the book.

Tammy
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You had your face in that book.

Tammy
00:08:02

I would just say if anyone picks up the book and they have that same feeling like I'm not sure where Adam is going, this, going with this.

Tammy
00:08:11

Give it some time because clearly it's going to kick in and you won't want to put it down from what you shared.

Dave
00:08:18

Do you remember when we were down at the gym and you were doing your workout and I'm, I'm on the treadmill and I'm reading and you come over and sneak up behind me and take a photograph of me doing it?

Tammy
00:08:30

Yeah, highly.

Tammy
00:08:33

Not anything I would recommend to most people trotting along on the treadmill and trying to at the same time, but yeah, you're multi talented so you, you could handle it.

Dave
00:08:44

Yeah, that's Because I'm working out these days, baby.

Dave
00:08:47

Trying to get in shape for a new you in 25.

Dave
00:08:52

All right, so give me one of yours.

Tammy
00:08:56

May Gardener.

Tammy
00:08:59

Duh.

Tammy
00:09:01

I think every year I have a May Gardener book on our top 10.

Tammy
00:09:07

Shadowheart High Octane thriller is what I've seen out there.

Tammy
00:09:13

And I fully agree with that description.

Tammy
00:09:16

It's another book in her Unsub series.

Tammy
00:09:19

I can pick up a book in her series and I just know I'm gonna be good to go.

Tammy
00:09:27

Like, good character development, great storyline.

Tammy
00:09:30

Meg makes me think she's a very thoughtful writer.

Tammy
00:09:35

And I always away feeling fulfilled by the time spent.

Dave
00:09:42

She is one of those artists.

Dave
00:09:43

And there's a couple in both of our lists that you.

Dave
00:09:47

It's.

Dave
00:09:47

And it's so refreshing and comforting to know that you can always, every single time count on particular authors to always deliver.

Dave
00:09:58

Now you're going to say, well, yeah, except for the case.

Dave
00:10:02

That's not always the case.

Dave
00:10:04

Sometimes the authors will go off on tangents and try something new, and it doesn't quite work.

Dave
00:10:10

And that doesn't mean it's wrong.

Dave
00:10:12

They're just experimenting, as we all are.

Dave
00:10:15

But.

Dave
00:10:16

And maybe part of that is you're so used to getting dialed into their particular protagonist that you're like, well, anything outside of your protagonist.

Dave
00:10:25

I'm thinking of Danny Ryan and Don Winflow.

Dave
00:10:27

Then, you know, I'm not sure, you know, if that's my interest.

Dave
00:10:32

However, like with Mega, always.

Dave
00:10:35

Always a.

Dave
00:10:36

A hit.

Dave
00:10:37

I almost said always a heat, as in heat, too.

Tammy
00:10:40

But it is hard, though.

Tammy
00:10:41

I understand that when you're used to a particular storyline or character and you rely on that author for.

Tammy
00:10:50

For a story about that individual or that subject matter, and then they.

Tammy
00:10:55

They switch, it's having to jump outside of your comfort zone and take a chance on, you know, just something fresh and something different.

Tammy
00:11:04

So I understand it when people have a hard time with that because even when I'm on the go, if I want to pick up a book to read it, I want to feel like I know exactly where this is going to go.

Tammy
00:11:17

This is going to be great quality and it's going to take me on a.

Tammy
00:11:21

On an adventure.

Dave
00:11:24

Yeah.

Dave
00:11:24

And I've always felt that way with.

Dave
00:11:26

I'm thinking of another one that just popped into my head.

Dave
00:11:28

James Patterson.

Dave
00:11:29

Now there's a guy that I have followed for decades.

Dave
00:11:33

I mean, decades when I was traveling back and forth across the country and I would pick up a book en route in both directions.

Dave
00:11:40

And you always knew that it was going to be short chapters, fast reads, lots of action, plenty of dialogue, and you were always pleasantly pleased at the end of it, you know.

Tammy
00:11:52

Yeah, yeah.

Dave
00:11:53

I'm going to roll in here with both eight and seven.

Dave
00:11:56

Number eight is a gal that I got to sit down with face to face this past year in our studios in la.

Dave
00:12:02

And I was so thrilled because she is probably one of the sweetest, most charming people ever.

Dave
00:12:07

It's TJ Newman and her book was Worst Case Scenario or and some people saying Worst Case Scenario.

Dave
00:12:13

Either way, just one of those books that I think she's really become kind of those, you know, it's tragic devastation, fill in the blank.

Dave
00:12:23

She's really become that kind of an author.

Dave
00:12:25

And that book, as you know, we were talking about is just non stop.

Dave
00:12:30

It doesn't, I don't think it takes a beat anywhere inside the book.

Tammy
00:12:34

Yeah, yeah, TJ is, she's so likable.

Dave
00:12:40

Yeah.

Tammy
00:12:41

She's someone.

Tammy
00:12:42

It's easy to cheer for her.

Tammy
00:12:44

And then when you pick up her books, it is that same thing.

Tammy
00:12:49

You know, you're going to pick up a book.

Tammy
00:12:51

If I'm going to go from point A to point B, she's going to keep me entertained all along the way.

Tammy
00:12:57

And it does do a little bit of a throwback to like, what was it, the Poseidon adventure from the 70s and the towering Inferno and Earthquake.

Tammy
00:13:10

Yeah, there is a little bit of that.

Dave
00:13:12

Yeah.

Dave
00:13:13

Just nuts.

Tammy
00:13:14

Yeah.

Dave
00:13:15

Number seven for me on this year's top ten was a book by a guy that I was definitely late to the party.

Dave
00:13:24

But you he can now count.

Dave
00:13:26

And I told him this on the show.

Dave
00:13:27

You can count me now at the.

Dave
00:13:30

Perhaps the mayor of your fan club, CJ box 3 inch teeth about a grizzly attack.

Dave
00:13:37

And it was grizzly in a lot of different ways.

Dave
00:13:40

But boy, that guy, he can flat out right talking about blending intrigue and mystery and then of course the element of suspense and thrills, but all tucked inside a story with characters that feel very real, very, very next door.

Dave
00:13:58

Like, you know these guys inside and out.

Dave
00:14:00

And I just thoroughly enjoyed CJ's book, Three Inch Deed.

Tammy
00:14:05

I learned a lot from your podcast with him too, I think.

Tammy
00:14:10

And I mean it was all around bear behavior and that subject matter.

Tammy
00:14:16

But yeah, I like him.

Tammy
00:14:17

He was really, really entertaining.

Dave
00:14:20

And we have a little inside scoop on bears.

Dave
00:14:23

We have some friends up in Lake Tahoe and the bears in Lake Tahoe are really pretty, just much, pretty much part of the neighborhood.

Dave
00:14:33

They, they come up on your porch and often will just welcome themselves Right into your house, perhaps in the middle of the night and go through your refrigerator.

Dave
00:14:42

They aren't grizzlies.

Dave
00:14:44

They're black browns.

Dave
00:14:46

Yeah.

Dave
00:14:48

But so we, you know, we have a.

Dave
00:14:51

We have a kind of a inside mutual appreciation for bears.

Tammy
00:14:55

Yeah.

Dave
00:14:55

Yeah.

Dave
00:14:58

How about you?

Dave
00:14:59

What's your number four would be?

Tammy
00:15:02

Don Winslow.

Tammy
00:15:04

City in Ruins.

Tammy
00:15:05

The Danny Ryan trilogy.

Dave
00:15:07

Bam.

Tammy
00:15:09

It was a fun three year ride with Don Danny.

Tammy
00:15:16

I'm excited to see that come to life on it.

Tammy
00:15:19

Is coming to life on the silver screen, right?

Dave
00:15:22

Yeah.

Tammy
00:15:22

Yeah.

Dave
00:15:23

With Mr.

Dave
00:15:24

Elvis himself.

Tammy
00:15:26

Oh, yeah.

Tammy
00:15:27

Austin Butler.

Dave
00:15:28

Austin Butler, yeah.

Dave
00:15:30

As Daniel Ryan.

Tammy
00:15:31

Yeah.

Dave
00:15:32

Again, we.

Dave
00:15:33

Anybody who knows anything about Tammy and I, we're ginormous Don Winslow fans.

Dave
00:15:39

I mean, I count him.

Dave
00:15:40

We count him as he and Gene as friends.

Dave
00:15:42

And, you know, he's been here to the house.

Dave
00:15:43

House.

Dave
00:15:43

He's hung out in the studio.

Dave
00:15:45

And the guy never, ever, ever disappoints.

Dave
00:15:49

Never once.

Tammy
00:15:50

They're just good people.

Dave
00:15:52

Yeah.

Tammy
00:15:52

Really good people.

Dave
00:15:55

All right, let's move down to number six.

Dave
00:15:57

Now, this gal I.

Dave
00:15:59

I got a chance to meet at Bower Con this past year in San Diego.

Dave
00:16:04

And when I met her, and she seemed so unassuming and so quaint and polite and sweet, and yet she writes hell of a thriller.

Dave
00:16:14

And you heard me on the show before.

Dave
00:16:16

You've heard me mention the fact that she reminds me of, like, Jean Le Carre.

Dave
00:16:21

But she wrote a book called the Peacock and the Sparrow, which is just.

Dave
00:16:26

There is a reason that she's won, I think, pretty much every thriller and thriller adjacent award for Peacock in the Sparrow.

Dave
00:16:34

It is just a fantastic read.

Dave
00:16:39

And I can't remember, honey, did you or did you not read it yet?

Tammy
00:16:43

It's on my tbr.

Tammy
00:16:44

TBR list.

Dave
00:16:46

It's you.

Dave
00:16:48

Tammy is an enormous spy thriller fan.

Dave
00:16:51

I mean, Tinker Taylor and I can think of Slow Horses and this, that and the other.

Dave
00:16:57

I'm just huge fan.

Dave
00:16:58

Well, you're gonna gobble this one up like Thanksgiving dinner.

Tammy
00:17:05

I'm excited.

Tammy
00:17:07

And she's really nice, too.

Dave
00:17:09

The nicest and so unassuming.

Dave
00:17:11

Like.

Dave
00:17:12

Yeah, it's a little book I wrote.

Dave
00:17:14

Yeah.

Dave
00:17:14

Former CIA.

Dave
00:17:16

How you doing?

Dave
00:17:17

He got a little inside scoop for us.

Dave
00:17:20

My number five goes to a gal that you've just mentioned moment ago.

Dave
00:17:24

She also always delivers Meg Gardner Shadow Heart, Golf Clap.

Tammy
00:17:31

Love it.

Dave
00:17:31

Yeah.

Dave
00:17:32

You can't go wrong with Meg Gardner.

Tammy
00:17:35

No.

Dave
00:17:36

What's your next one, darling?

Tammy
00:17:38

I'm moving into audiobooks in the nonfiction world because that's kind of where I live.

Dave
00:17:44

Okay.

Tammy
00:17:47

I want to either listen to a podcast or listen to a book when I'm out walking sunny or going for a run.

Tammy
00:17:54

And one book that I really enjoyed this year was Burn Book by Kara Swisher.

Tammy
00:18:00

And if you're not familiar with Kara Swisher, she's a longtime tech journalist.

Tammy
00:18:05

She's highly rated.

Tammy
00:18:07

I was introduced to her listening to the Succession podcast, and she just kind of says it like it is.

Tammy
00:18:17

This book is a little like memoir, if a little behind the scenes, backdoor insight into moguls in the tech industry.

Tammy
00:18:29

So what I find fascinating about that is just learning a little more about this group that really built up our tech industry.

Tammy
00:18:38

And, you know, the impetus for a lot of.

Tammy
00:18:42

A lot of these people to get involved in tech was because they wanted to change the world.

Tammy
00:18:48

They wanted to make it better.

Tammy
00:18:50

And the irony is, you know, so many of us, everyone here could probably sit and talk about the reality of changing the world for the better and how it's really landed in our world.

Tammy
00:19:08

The impacts of social media, the impact of I'm never, you know, far from my phone.

Tammy
00:19:15

I'm always connected.

Tammy
00:19:17

So I like things that make me think and conversations and information that make me think.

Tammy
00:19:25

And this book, Burn Book by Kara Swisher is definitely one of those.

Tammy
00:19:31

Highly recommend.

Dave
00:19:32

And the book is called Burn Book or Burn.

Tammy
00:19:34

Burn Book.

Dave
00:19:35

Burn Book.

Dave
00:19:36

Okay.

Dave
00:19:37

All right.

Dave
00:19:38

I'm glad you brought up podcasts because I of course have 10, but I'm going to get to them in a second.

Dave
00:19:44

I know.

Dave
00:19:45

I'm going to go ahead and get back to my books.

Dave
00:19:48

Let's see, we're at number.

Tammy
00:19:49

Well, I'm still in books.

Tammy
00:19:50

That's an audiobook.

Dave
00:19:52

Yeah.

Dave
00:19:52

Okay, there you go.

Dave
00:19:53

Fair enough.

Tammy
00:19:53

Yeah.

Dave
00:19:54

Number four is a book that I can say turned me, turned me, turned me on its head.

Dave
00:20:03

I mean, it was a book, a perspective I had not read before, which is very hard to find.

Dave
00:20:08

And it's from a guy I had not heard from before, oddly enough.

Dave
00:20:12

Eric Rickstad in a book called Lilith and Black and White Cover, one of the most singularly powerful books I read in 24 about a woman who takes matters into her own hands after a shooting at their school at her children's school.

Dave
00:20:32

Wow, you heard me talking about that one.

Tammy
00:20:36

And I remember the podcast.

Tammy
00:20:37

And there are some real life accounts that he layered into the story.

Tammy
00:20:45

Is that correct?

Tammy
00:20:46

Am I remembering that correctly?

Tammy
00:20:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dave
00:20:51

Powerful.

Dave
00:20:52

Brian Freeman ended up having my number one book of the summer.

Dave
00:20:57

It did slip a couple of notches in my overall, however, it doesn't mean, it's not still tops in my book bf, and that is break Every Rule.

Dave
00:21:07

A book that broke every rule and entertained every single step of the way.

Tammy
00:21:14

I love it.

Tammy
00:21:17

I have two more Go for It fiction audiobooks to talk about.

Tammy
00:21:23

The next book that I really enjoyed is called the Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt.

Tammy
00:21:30

I think I'm pronouncing his last name correctly.

Tammy
00:21:33

This is this is a conversation about the spread of social media and its impact on kids.

Tammy
00:21:43

When the smartphone was introduced to young kids, teenagers, and the impact of that smartphone on their mental health and on their childhood.

Tammy
00:21:57

It's fascinating.

Tammy
00:21:59

It's fascinating to me.

Tammy
00:22:01

And again, this is one of those conversations.

Tammy
00:22:04

I don't think any of us can argue about what happens to us when we watch everybody's perfect life on Instagram, only to look at our life and wonder how come everybody else is having these incredible vacations and shopping trips and hikes along the European countryside and, you know, we're all stuck here in our own sad sack of a life.

Tammy
00:22:30

I found it fascinating.

Tammy
00:22:32

I think it's a worthy conversation.

Tammy
00:22:34

It sounds like it has made some impact where it should make some impact, and I hope that it continues to affect change.

Tammy
00:22:44

And you know, how everyone allows smartphones to be involved in their kids lives and even maybe our lives.

Dave
00:22:56

I just thought of something.

Dave
00:22:57

We're going to include the list of these books and their authors and the podcasts as we're going to mention in a second, and the audiobooks so that in case driving and listening to this podcast, you're like, oh, you don't have paper and pen on the handy.

Dave
00:23:13

Yeah, you can refer to this later because that is a book, an audiobook that I'd love to get my hands.

Tammy
00:23:18

On and I'll share it with you.

Dave
00:23:20

Why thank you.

Tammy
00:23:21

On our family sharing account with.

Dave
00:23:26

All right, I'm going to wrap up my top 10 books right here.

Dave
00:23:29

Both two and one.

Dave
00:23:31

Number two goes to Don Winslow, City in ruins.

Dave
00:23:34

We talked about him.

Dave
00:23:35

Danny Ryan, of course, a book that thrills at every single turn.

Dave
00:23:38

I think I've read every single one of Don's books.

Dave
00:23:41

Kind of enough said.

Dave
00:23:42

He's in retirement now.

Dave
00:23:44

So of course that makes you go, well, I can't get any more Dot Winslow, as far as we know.

Dave
00:23:49

And then number one goes to a book that I it made my top 10 for the summer.

Dave
00:23:55

It's a book that continues to haunt my memory and haunt in a good way because it is just one of those books that I have not been able to put out of my Mind, he checks off all the boxes.

Dave
00:24:08

He is smart, he's charming, he's a great writer.

Dave
00:24:12

The book is concise, it's broad enough, it's involves wide travel, espionage, spy, there's a love interest.

Dave
00:24:21

I mean it has every single solitary thing you want.

Dave
00:24:24

And it still clocks in at just under 3:30 pages in the book, which is kind of a sweet spot for me.

Dave
00:24:31

That 323 30.

Dave
00:24:32

And that is Christopher Reich's Matterhorn.

Dave
00:24:36

Such an impressive story that a kernel of his idea, which I hope we're all doing as writers, a kernel of his idea sparked, ignited this thing in me.

Dave
00:24:47

I'm working on my own thriller and something about that ignited and gave me the push, the impetus, the enthusiasm to borrow the thinking, the, the strategy and work it into a book.

Dave
00:25:04

I can go on forever.

Dave
00:25:04

But I'm not.

Dave
00:25:05

Chris, I want you back.

Dave
00:25:06

We got to meet in the LA studio.

Dave
00:25:09

I want you back for the next book, which I hope comes out in 25.

Dave
00:25:12

That book is Matterhorn, so bravo.

Tammy
00:25:16

I have that on my TBR list too.

Tammy
00:25:20

So Peacock and the Sparrow, Matterhorn and then Jack Carrs book Beirut.

Tammy
00:25:30

I do have one more audio nonfiction audiobook, but I think I'm sounding like a major buzzkill.

Dave
00:25:37

Okay, why is that?

Tammy
00:25:41

Well, I'm talking about the demise of our youth.

Tammy
00:25:46

And now I come back with the Storm before the Calm with George Friedman.

Tammy
00:25:51

He's a geopolitical forecaster and he talks about the demise of civilizations over the course of time and what's in store for the United States.

Tammy
00:26:03

And he makes predictions like throughout the 2000s and into the 2000s.

Tammy
00:26:09

I find this stuff fascinating.

Tammy
00:26:11

However, I feel like a major downer on the Thriller Zone end of the year show.

Tammy
00:26:17

So maybe that'll be all from Tammy on audiobooks.

Dave
00:26:23

Oh, that's so funny.

Dave
00:26:25

What a great title too, by the way.

Dave
00:26:28

Well, honey, this is the thing about you.

Dave
00:26:29

You're.

Dave
00:26:30

And you've said this before, the reason that you don't read a lot of fiction.

Dave
00:26:34

And by the way folks, Tammy is one of the hardest working people I've ever met in my life.

Dave
00:26:38

And I'm not just saying that.

Dave
00:26:39

I'd say it if she wasn't sitting here right now.

Dave
00:26:42

But she only has so much time of the day in between the jobs that she handles and then taking care of our new daughter, Sunny.

Dave
00:26:50

Four legged Sunny.

Dave
00:26:52

There's very little time left, so she's either probably going to be listening to it because she spends a lot of time outdoors as we do and, and she wants to be Learning.

Dave
00:27:03

So there you go.

Tammy
00:27:04

There we go.

Tammy
00:27:05

I like the audiobooks, by the way.

Dave
00:27:07

One quick thing I meant to mention, I have an honorable mention, as I always do, to debut author John Lindstrom, Hollywood Hustle.

Dave
00:27:14

Also met in the LA studios.

Dave
00:27:16

Face to Face makes all the difference in the world.

Dave
00:27:19

And I might want to interject this, that in the new year 25, we're going to be revealing some new things in the show.

Dave
00:27:25

We've talked about this barely before, but we're going to talk about this later in the show.

Dave
00:27:31

And some of that involves more face to face because it's just, in my opinion, the immediacy of being able to just dial up anybody and talk to them is great, but there is nothing.

Dave
00:27:43

And ask every one of them.

Dave
00:27:44

There's nothing like sitting down face to face.

Dave
00:27:46

And John really delivered with Hollywood Hustle.

Tammy
00:27:49

And what an awesome interview.

Tammy
00:27:53

He was so much fun during that interview.

Tammy
00:27:58

And not fun as in comical, but fun just as participatory.

Tammy
00:28:04

Lots of great context around storyline, character development.

Tammy
00:28:08

How do you go from being a working actor and apply that into writing a book?

Tammy
00:28:14

It was a really great podcast.

Dave
00:28:18

Yeah.

Dave
00:28:18

And John, I want to say this to you.

Dave
00:28:20

I hope you're listening.

Dave
00:28:21

You were among the favorites and you come to the show with such a warmth and a charm and an insight and you're so engaging.

Dave
00:28:30

And I know some of that's part of your acting background, but we had a chance to have lunch afterwards with Jonathan and Mark and he's just, just.

Dave
00:28:39

He's just an average guy.

Dave
00:28:41

Although he's a fantastic actor, I might add.

Dave
00:28:44

Of which you know him for decades on General Hospital and other things, right?

Tammy
00:28:50

Yes.

Tammy
00:28:51

My mom was a big as the World Turns follower soap opera on cbs and he showed up as a character there and played that character for a long time.

Tammy
00:29:07

I never got into like, I never.

Tammy
00:29:11

I don't know about the General Hospital character, but yeah, from a soap opera background, the guy is completely legit.

Dave
00:29:19

Yeah.

Tammy
00:29:20

So, John, someone's at the door.

Dave
00:29:22

Oh, go ahead, please.

Dave
00:29:24

Could be a special delivery.

Dave
00:29:26

See, this is the thing about matter of fact.

Dave
00:29:29

Let me go find out.

Dave
00:29:35

Oh, yay.

Dave
00:29:38

Oh, nice.

Dave
00:29:40

She'll be back in just a second.

Dave
00:29:42

And here she comes.

Tammy
00:29:46

It's like, welcome to Mr.

Tammy
00:29:48

Rogers neighborhood.

Tammy
00:29:49

Who's gonna come in the door and join the podcast?

Tammy
00:29:53

It's our local UPS delivery person.

Tammy
00:29:57

Oh, where are we going now?

Dave
00:29:59

Well, I've got my top 10 podcasts.

Dave
00:30:02

I can just blow through those if you'd like.

Tammy
00:30:04

Go.

Dave
00:30:05

And this number, number 10 goes to.

Dave
00:30:10

Course of Action with our good buddy Jeff Clark, as you know, is a thriller writer in the making.

Dave
00:30:16

He also writes about business, writing for business.

Dave
00:30:20

But I Jeff just a good dude and he's always supported the show and I take a peek whenever I get a chance.

Dave
00:30:26

Number nine goes to Spies, Lies and Private Eyes.

Dave
00:30:28

Another writer in our familiar family goes to Terrence McCauley.

Dave
00:30:33

Great podcast.

Dave
00:30:35

Congrats to both you guys for doing what you do.

Dave
00:30:38

Number eight goes to one that Tammy turned me on to.

Dave
00:30:40

And Tammy knew the author, the host, before I did because she lived nearby the studios.

Dave
00:30:49

Major Garrett from CBS does one called the Takeout Political Chatter Over Lunch and such.

Dave
00:30:56

And just a riveting podcast if you'd like to add anything there before I move on.

Tammy
00:31:01

Keep going.

Dave
00:31:02

Okay, number seven goes to a show that I've been a fan of forever, Tim Ferriss and the Tim Ferriss show.

Dave
00:31:10

Here's the guy who turned me on to the four Hour Work Week, the four Hour Body.

Dave
00:31:15

He's into biohacking and just boy.

Dave
00:31:19

Probably one of the most inquisitive hosts you could ever find.

Dave
00:31:25

I don't want to talk about it too much because I'm going to drive you away from my show, but Tim Ferriss show comes in at.

Dave
00:31:30

Number 76 goes to a trifecta of humor and talent, a show that Tammy and I listen to constantly whenever we can.

Dave
00:31:39

If you want a good laugh, generally with movie stars and comedians etc, it's going to be Jason Baitman, Sean Hayes and Will Arnett with a show called Smartless.

Dave
00:31:48

Just a.

Dave
00:31:50

It came on the scene right around Covid and blew up to magnificent proportions and they're now making more money than God.

Tammy
00:31:59

They're on Cirrus Radio now.

Dave
00:32:02

Circus xm.

Dave
00:32:02

Are they?

Tammy
00:32:03

Yeah, I know.

Dave
00:32:03

They started on wondering.

Dave
00:32:05

Okay, number five goes to true crime.

Dave
00:32:08

And I almost didn't want to say that because again, you're going to drive over there and maybe not here, but true crime.

Tammy
00:32:14

Room for everybody.

Dave
00:32:15

David, thank you.

Dave
00:32:16

Room for everyone.

Dave
00:32:17

And which is why we're also entering that space in 25 in a little tiny way.

Dave
00:32:23

We'll share that more later.

Dave
00:32:25

Number four goes to a guy that you either love or hate.

Dave
00:32:28

He's hard to be.

Dave
00:32:30

Yeah, he's an okay guy.

Dave
00:32:31

He's.

Dave
00:32:32

You're, you're pretty much one of two ways with this guy.

Dave
00:32:34

And Tammy and I tend to listen to him when we're on long road trips because his shows are long.

Dave
00:32:40

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Dave
00:32:43

It is a man cave bromance for everyone.

Dave
00:32:47

He talks to a Lot of comedians, generally movie stars, musicians, and it's always entertaining.

Tammy
00:32:56

He's pretty knowledgeable about a lot of subjects like that.

Tammy
00:33:03

He's really impressed me by how knowledgeable he is about a lot of things.

Dave
00:33:10

You're right.

Dave
00:33:11

Matter of fact, to the point of there's a little piece of me that goes.

Dave
00:33:16

When I think about getting into his space, which is more, you know, non selective to hum thriller fiction.

Tammy
00:33:24

Right.

Dave
00:33:25

I go, I couldn't possibly keep up with him because he's, he's just so, well read about so many different things and so knowledgeable.

Tammy
00:33:31

Yeah.

Dave
00:33:32

My last three that goes 3, 2, 1.

Dave
00:33:34

Tammy and I both share because we are into healthy living, healthy lifestyles, eating right, living long, Etc.

Dave
00:33:46

Number three goes to Dr.

Dave
00:33:48

Bernardo Huberman with Huberman Lab.

Dave
00:33:51

If you want to learn about science and the body and all that goes with it, give that a listen because holy bananas, that guy just, he, he brings on some of the.

Dave
00:34:03

And I'm thinking of Peter Attia who he's had on a number of times though.

Dave
00:34:07

You get those two guys on there, Dr.

Dave
00:34:09

Huberman and Peter Attia who wrote a book.

Dave
00:34:13

What's the book you wrote?

Dave
00:34:17

Life Scan.

Dave
00:34:19

Outlive.

Dave
00:34:20

Outlive is a book and boy, just if you want to learn about science and body and health and well being, check it out.

Dave
00:34:28

Number two goes to Tetragrammaton, which is Rick Rubin, the music guy, just producer.

Dave
00:34:37

Thank you.

Dave
00:34:37

He, I've got the book, I'll listen to the podcast.

Dave
00:34:42

As one guy said the other day, oh, you mean the guy who looks like a homeless man.

Dave
00:34:46

I'm like, well, yeah, I was gonna go with Guru, but you can say homeless man.

Dave
00:34:51

He's smarter than anybody I know.

Dave
00:34:53

I mean just, you gotta check it out.

Dave
00:34:55

Tetragrammaton.

Dave
00:34:57

And then number one goes to.

Dave
00:34:59

We really should get a piece of the stock on this guy.

Dave
00:35:04

We mention his name probably in conversation at least once a day.

Dave
00:35:08

We listened to his podcast, we've read his books, we have subscribed to function health.

Dave
00:35:14

Dr.

Dave
00:35:14

Mark Hyman in the Dr.

Dave
00:35:16

Mark Hyman Show.

Dave
00:35:17

Take it away because you're the one who introduced me to him and it's just one of my favorites.

Tammy
00:35:25

Dr.

Tammy
00:35:27

Hyman, gosh, I think he came.

Tammy
00:35:30

He was with the Cleveland clinic in the 2000s.

Tammy
00:35:35

He was at Canyon Ranch as a doctor there.

Tammy
00:35:40

I think the first book I bought from him was on like the anti Inflammation diet which was in.

Tammy
00:35:47

Might have come out in the late 2000s.

Tammy
00:35:50

I've always followed him, just watched what he was doing, you know, off to the side.

Tammy
00:35:57

And then when I started to go through just some health shifts, when we were all in the COVID shutdown, you and I started working with his ultra wellness clinic via Teladoc and went deep down the rabbit hole into genetic background.

Tammy
00:36:20

You name it, we uncovered it and I am a huge fan.

Tammy
00:36:26

Hook, line and sinker.

Tammy
00:36:28

Dr.

Tammy
00:36:29

Hyman, I can't say, I can't say enough about him.

Tammy
00:36:33

If you're looking just to get information on health and wellness and longevity, he is the guy in my opinion.

Tammy
00:36:43

I really do like Huberman and I, I respect Peter Attia.

Tammy
00:36:50

I would say that the difference with some of these people, guys that are into the whole wellness and longevity world, is that they're generally using their maleness and hacks on them as a male to talk about the impact of these hacks on lifestyle.

Tammy
00:37:16

I'm not a dude, so that doesn't really help me.

Tammy
00:37:21

And that would be the one thing that I don't particularly enjoy.

Tammy
00:37:27

You know, if you're a guy, I would totally say Peter Attia.

Tammy
00:37:30

Dr.

Tammy
00:37:31

Peter Attia.

Tammy
00:37:32

He is fantastic.

Tammy
00:37:35

Huberman.

Tammy
00:37:35

I really enjoy his stuff in general with Hyman.

Tammy
00:37:39

His approach is he's approaching this from a functional health perspective for you as the person gender specific, your deal.

Tammy
00:37:50

And he's not about the hacks.

Tammy
00:37:52

He certainly talks about these various things that are coming up in the public eye and in social conversation.

Tammy
00:38:01

So that would be the difference for me.

Tammy
00:38:03

I'm all about Mark Hyman.

Tammy
00:38:06

He would be my number one wellness podcast.

Tammy
00:38:09

Go to.

Dave
00:38:10

Yeah, it's a no brainer and it's so funny.

Dave
00:38:14

Just yesterday with our chiropractor, kinesiologist and she introduced me to the guy who originally started Functional Health and there's a book right there in front of you.

Dave
00:38:25

I'm trying to think of his name.

Dave
00:38:27

It is Jim James.

Tammy
00:38:31

Jeffrey.

Dave
00:38:32

Jeffrey.

Tammy
00:38:33

Jeffrey Bland.

Dave
00:38:35

Jeffrey Bland.

Dave
00:38:36

He's kind of the father of that functional health and wellness.

Dave
00:38:41

But and I was just thinking about this.

Dave
00:38:43

We're, we're going to have all this information in the show notes because you want to take a deep dive on your health.

Dave
00:38:48

You want to find out how to improve your life today.

Dave
00:38:55

This is the way to do it.

Dave
00:38:57

Trust me.

Dave
00:38:57

We both have gone through between my cancer and your perimenopause, we have faced some real uphill battles.

Dave
00:39:05

And if you do not take life by the throat and give it a good shake to wake yourself up and do the right thing to avoid things like inflammation, we'll just start there.

Dave
00:39:17

Then you not only are missing the boat, but you're shortening your life without preaching too much about it.

Dave
00:39:24

But there's.

Tammy
00:39:24

Well, thank you for carrying the buzz kill baton because I was thinking I was holding that sucker for the entire podcast.

Tammy
00:39:32

So thank you.

Dave
00:39:36

We gotta share that baton, baby.

Dave
00:39:38

And speak.

Dave
00:39:39

Speaking of which, we have to take a short break here in a second and we're going to come back with the second half of the show which is going to involve our best top 10, top 8, top 7 ish, whatever Tammy wants to do.

Dave
00:39:54

TV shows and films of 2024.

Tammy
00:39:58

Would you like some of my podcast or is kind of all about you.

Dave
00:40:06

Oh, wow.

Dave
00:40:08

Well, like I was saying, we're going to take a short break in a couple of minutes so we that is still a few minutes and I'm going to leave these last few minutes all to you, Ms.

Dave
00:40:18

Podcaster Way.

Tammy
00:40:20

What a way to pull that.

Tammy
00:40:23

Yeah.

Tammy
00:40:23

Nicely done, darling.

Tammy
00:40:24

Nicely done.

Tammy
00:40:26

I agree with you on, on Hyman.

Tammy
00:40:30

I agree with you on Major Garrett.

Tammy
00:40:33

I like Rick Rubin.

Tammy
00:40:35

I again, it's like Joe Rogan or Jack Carr.

Tammy
00:40:39

I really like his podcast.

Tammy
00:40:41

Depending upon the guest.

Tammy
00:40:42

It's all guest depend what's going to be, you know, where my particular interests lie.

Tammy
00:40:49

And then I'm going to be all in and I'm going to listen.

Tammy
00:40:52

But I might not tune in every day because I just might not be interested in the guest.

Tammy
00:40:58

Yeah, news and politics.

Tammy
00:41:02

I like the Daily, the New York Times.

Tammy
00:41:04

I'm a big fan of Katie Couric.

Tammy
00:41:07

I watch her Instagram Lives.

Tammy
00:41:10

I wow.

Tammy
00:41:11

I listened to her next question.

Tammy
00:41:14

She just always on the front lines trying to deliver information, trying to, to bring to light topics that we're all dealing with right now.

Tammy
00:41:27

Whether it was during the election or it was during some of these criminal trials that pertain to our incumbent president.

Tammy
00:41:38

She just, she was, she's always trying to bring information forward.

Tammy
00:41:43

I love her.

Tammy
00:41:44

I really like David Axelrod with his Axe files.

Tammy
00:41:48

We listen and watch Bill Maher.

Tammy
00:41:52

We've even gone to see him in person.

Tammy
00:41:54

Love him.

Tammy
00:41:57

Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway.

Tammy
00:42:00

That's another good one.

Tammy
00:42:02

If you're interested again and just current day subject matter technology.

Tammy
00:42:11

I like them and I like their style.

Tammy
00:42:13

If I'm going for something joyful and light, I'm always going to listen to the Thriller Zone for sure.

Tammy
00:42:22

Hello.

Tammy
00:42:25

I do like smart lists.

Tammy
00:42:27

I might tap into a Conan O'Brien and see who he has and there for a while last year, at the beginning of, at the beginning of this year, I was getting a pretty big kick out of the new heights podcast with the Kelsey brothers.

Dave
00:42:43

Oh, yeah.

Tammy
00:42:44

Again, just.

Tammy
00:42:46

I need cotton candy in my life right now.

Tammy
00:42:49

So let me tune in to a couple football player bros and hear what they have to talk about.

Dave
00:42:56

Well, it's so funny to follow some guys who come out of nowhere.

Dave
00:43:01

And sure, if you're dating Taylor Swift and you're on one of the most successful, winningest football teams in the world, you got a pretty good chance you're going to get some attention.

Dave
00:43:14

The fact that his brother is equally, if not more hilarious than him.

Dave
00:43:19

Yeah, certainly helps.

Dave
00:43:21

But, you know, the podcasting world exploded on the scene decades ago, seems to show no signs of slowing down, and has now generated both two and three digigit million dollar deals.

Dave
00:43:39

And it's.

Dave
00:43:42

It's hard to keep it going sometimes, but when you have the right chemistry, the right combo, as you, many of yours have met that you just mentioned, many of which I really enjoyed and I did not put in my list.

Dave
00:43:56

You're on.

Dave
00:43:57

You're on your way.

Tammy
00:43:58

Yeah.

Tammy
00:43:59

Yeah.

Tammy
00:44:00

And I'm sure that industry is going to go through some shifts and changes in the near future, too.

Tammy
00:44:05

How.

Tammy
00:44:06

How can it not?

Dave
00:44:07

Exactly.

Dave
00:44:09

So apologies for not jumping in there, darling.

Tammy
00:44:13

No apology necessary.

Dave
00:44:15

All right, so now we're going to take that short break, and when we come back after our sponsor gets to say his hoo ha, we're going to cover the TV shows and films that we found were fabulously entertaining, wouldn't you say?

Tammy
00:44:31

So excited to go down this track.

Dave
00:44:35

Yeah.

Dave
00:44:36

So, folks, stay with us.

Dave
00:44:37

We'll be back with more Dave and Tammy Year End extravaganza right here on the Thriller Zone.

Dave
00:44:43

Stay with us and welcome back to the Dave and Tammy Year End extravaganza here in 2024.

Tammy
00:44:55

So excited to talk movies, TV series.

Dave
00:45:01

Yes.

Dave
00:45:01

And before the end of the show, before we get to the end of the show, I got a couple of things that we're going to be adding to season eight in the new year.

Dave
00:45:11

Hey, is it in my imagination or do you have on a different, more festive outfit than you had in the beginning of the show?

Tammy
00:45:19

I do.

Tammy
00:45:20

Sorry, I'm, you know, just handling a little business.

Dave
00:45:24

Should I put this on hold for just a moment?

Tammy
00:45:26

No.

Dave
00:45:27

Should I come in there and get another espresso?

Dave
00:45:29

Because that would make four.

Dave
00:45:31

What are you doing?

Tammy
00:45:32

Not do that.

Dave
00:45:34

Who is it?

Dave
00:45:34

Who's on the phone?

Dave
00:45:35

Who's texting?

Tammy
00:45:36

The big daddy.

Dave
00:45:37

Which big daddy?

Dave
00:45:38

You're looking at the big daddy.

Dave
00:45:40

There's an.

Dave
00:45:42

Oh, the whale.

Dave
00:45:43

What's he Want.

Dave
00:45:43

What's the whale one?

Dave
00:45:44

Doesn't he know that you're in the middle of a.

Dave
00:45:46

One of the most breathtakingly intriguing podcast in the world today, by the way.

Dave
00:45:53

Speaking of which, while she's still checking her text in season eight coming up in January, a couple, couple of things you might want to take a note right now.

Dave
00:46:03

A couple things.

Dave
00:46:04

We're going to add some new features which I'm going to talk to before we end the show.

Dave
00:46:08

Things that I think you're going to be excited about, so stay tuned for that.

Dave
00:46:12

Also, we are dropping the show on a new day starting in January.

Tammy
00:46:17

Oh, this is exciting.

Tammy
00:46:19

Tell me more.

Dave
00:46:20

Why do you ask?

Dave
00:46:21

I'm so glad you did.

Dave
00:46:23

Yes, here's why.

Dave
00:46:25

I have done some extensive research.

Dave
00:46:28

We have hired the best minds in the business.

Dave
00:46:31

Come to find out that Mondays are not the per.

Dave
00:46:35

The best drop date for thriller fiction.

Dave
00:46:38

We hired the best people to do this and we found out that Thursdays are actually the best day of the week to drop a podcast.

Tammy
00:46:48

I get that.

Tammy
00:46:49

You know, even if I have big email announcements or updates like, you're not going to do that on a Friday, duh.

Tammy
00:46:59

And no one wants to get something on a Monday.

Tammy
00:47:02

Like they're dealing with an avalanche of emails on Monday and you could, you could easily get lost in the shuffle.

Tammy
00:47:10

So I think that's a great idea.

Tammy
00:47:11

It'll be fun to watch how that changes participation, views, subscribers, you name it.

Dave
00:47:21

Well, thank you for that and I appreciate it.

Dave
00:47:23

Yeah, we found out that Thursdays are the best.

Dave
00:47:26

So starting here's what you're doing.

Dave
00:47:27

You're going to pull out your calendar right now, people.

Dave
00:47:30

So we have a very special guest to launch season eight.

Dave
00:47:34

I can't say the name just yet.

Dave
00:47:36

Tammy's very excited.

Dave
00:47:38

I'm probably 10 times more excited because this is a.

Dave
00:47:41

This is someone I've wanted to have on the show.

Dave
00:47:43

Like if you had said to me, who's your dream guest?

Dave
00:47:46

There's three.

Dave
00:47:49

One of them has already been on it.

Dave
00:47:51

That leaves two.

Tammy
00:47:52

Is one of them alive?

Dave
00:47:54

One of them is no longer with us.

Dave
00:47:55

And then the third is the who's going to be here.

Dave
00:47:58

So if you've been listening to those shows in the past, you might know who that is.

Dave
00:48:01

That's all I'm going to say.

Dave
00:48:05

But we are.

Dave
00:48:05

We're.

Tammy
00:48:06

He is very much alive, though.

Dave
00:48:08

He is so much alive.

Tammy
00:48:09

We're not channeling him in.

Dave
00:48:14

He's very much alive and well living today.

Tammy
00:48:19

Love to hear it.

Dave
00:48:20

Prolific author.

Dave
00:48:21

Prolific.

Dave
00:48:23

And someone I Grew up going, wow.

Dave
00:48:26

All right, so we're out of.

Dave
00:48:29

We're on holiday.

Dave
00:48:30

Starting this show will drop On Monday the 23rd, right here in time for Christmas, as you would imagine.

Dave
00:48:38

Monday the 23rd.

Dave
00:48:39

Well, we are dropping on the 23rd, is what I'm trying to say to you, which is Christmas Eve day.

Dave
00:48:45

Eve.

Dave
00:48:46

Christmas Eve Eve day.

Tammy
00:48:47

And then your big Daddy Whale podcast will kick off season eight on.

Dave
00:48:55

On Thursday the 16th.

Tammy
00:48:58

I'm marking my calendar.

Dave
00:49:00

Thank you.

Dave
00:49:00

Here's why.

Dave
00:49:01

The first.

Dave
00:49:02

The first week, first two weeks, we're still on holiday because we're working.

Dave
00:49:07

We're working through Christmas, or right up until Christmas Day.

Tammy
00:49:11

You might be, but I'm.

Dave
00:49:13

Yeah, baby isn't, but Daddy is.

Dave
00:49:16

And then we have a.

Dave
00:49:18

Several grandkids, Jack and Allison, to come to see Momo and Popo.

Dave
00:49:22

Yeah, can't wait.

Dave
00:49:24

Oh, my God, we're gonna have so much fun, as you heard at the beginning of the show.

Dave
00:49:27

So then that we're gonna be out of town that first week.

Dave
00:49:29

And then the second week, we're really kind of coming back and getting our world started, which pushes us to the third week.

Dave
00:49:36

So bear with me, folks.

Dave
00:49:37

I mean, you're thinking to yourself, geez, Dave, I mean, third week of January, I got.

Dave
00:49:41

I got thrillers on to be listening to.

Dave
00:49:43

Understood.

Dave
00:49:45

But this is going to be worth the wait, right, Tammy?

Tammy
00:49:49

100%.

Dave
00:49:50

Okay.

Dave
00:49:52

So starting in January of 2025, it will be the.

Dave
00:49:56

In that particular month is going to be the third.

Dave
00:49:59

But come February, you know, it'll be the first Thursday of the month.

Dave
00:50:02

It's Thursdays, folks.

Dave
00:50:03

Thursdays.

Dave
00:50:04

Think of it as Thriller Thursday.

Tammy
00:50:08

Oh, there you go.

Dave
00:50:11

That's how you'll remember it.

Dave
00:50:12

Thriller Thursday.

Tammy
00:50:14

You're kind of excited with yourself, aren't you?

Dave
00:50:16

I'm a little excited myself, I gotta admit.

Dave
00:50:19

I am.

Dave
00:50:21

So mark your calendars.

Dave
00:50:22

January 16th for a thriller Thursday.

Tammy
00:50:27

How about some TV series?

Dave
00:50:30

And now we're on to the TV series, because I think we've pretty much kicked that right in the short ears.

Dave
00:50:34

All right, we're going to start with the top 10 shows, and we actually both have 10 this time.

Dave
00:50:39

Young Tammy has actually done the homework because.

Dave
00:50:43

And let me just say this out of the gate, honey, before you get started, then it's all you, all the time.

Dave
00:50:49

You're going to hear some similarities here, because guess what?

Dave
00:50:51

We sit.

Dave
00:50:52

She sits right there on that couch right there, and I sit in that black lounger.

Dave
00:50:56

Or vice versa.

Dave
00:50:57

We switch it up sometimes.

Dave
00:50:59

It's not just Daddy's chair And we.

Dave
00:51:01

There you go.

Dave
00:51:02

Black lounger, handsome statement, stately, classic.

Dave
00:51:10

And we watch all the same programs together because we pretty much never leave one.

Dave
00:51:13

Another side and we like it that way.

Tammy
00:51:17

Very true.

Dave
00:51:18

Yeah.

Dave
00:51:18

So we're going to see some similarities.

Dave
00:51:22

I do have a bonus that I'm going to start with just because I always do always do that, which is.

Dave
00:51:28

So it's like the 11th one that I want.

Dave
00:51:30

Like 11th deserves to be there.

Dave
00:51:33

But we're only doing 10.

Dave
00:51:34

So why don't you start us off, young Tammy?

Tammy
00:51:37

Well, first, just to layer in my own process, I have thrillers, Joyful and Light, really wanted to like and looking forward to in 2025.

Dave
00:51:54

Oh, my goodness, you went the extra mile.

Dave
00:51:57

Mine is just.

Dave
00:51:58

This is what happened.

Dave
00:51:59

Here you go.

Tammy
00:52:00

These are not in any particular order.

Tammy
00:52:05

The first one is disclaimer with Cate Blanchett, Kevin Klein, Sasha Baron Cohen on Apple tv.

Tammy
00:52:14

Do you remember that one?

Dave
00:52:15

Yeah.

Dave
00:52:16

Because I have it listed as to the level of importance for me, so that that falls in as my number five.

Dave
00:52:23

But I'll talk about that in a minute.

Dave
00:52:24

So you're just.

Dave
00:52:25

You're willy nilling it because you're just going to give 10.

Dave
00:52:28

It doesn't matter where it is.

Tammy
00:52:30

Bingo.

Dave
00:52:31

Okay.

Tammy
00:52:32

What I liked about Disclaimer is we talk about this a lot.

Tammy
00:52:37

Content that stays with you and makes you think and you have a conversation about it like days later or even weeks later.

Tammy
00:52:46

I was thinking about it this morning as I was walking Sunny.

Tammy
00:52:49

I think it was great and here's.

Dave
00:52:53

Why I liked it.

Dave
00:52:54

I'll jump in on that if you don't mind.

Dave
00:52:56

Dark and twisted dose of must see TV that push some boundaries while pulling no stops as it portrayed a story that wasn't always what it seemed to be.

Dave
00:53:08

It is one of those things that I think the word is best used is haunts.

Dave
00:53:13

It haunted me for some time.

Tammy
00:53:15

Yep.

Dave
00:53:16

While also making me want to see the next one fast.

Tammy
00:53:20

Yeah, yeah, it was haunting.

Tammy
00:53:23

Do you want to go to your number 10?

Dave
00:53:26

I think I will.

Dave
00:53:27

Number 10 is one that I was slow coming to the show, but thanks to my lovely wife Tammy, who loved it and allowed me to catch on, I have grown to love it.

Dave
00:53:39

Number 10 for me was Slow Horses, starring Gary Oldman as overly disheveled spy chief who reigns over a group of MI5 rejects.

Dave
00:53:52

Probably one of his more viscerally captivating roles that I've seen him play.

Dave
00:53:59

His.

Dave
00:54:00

His dishevelment is taken to a new level.

Dave
00:54:04

I mean, you can practically smell him through the television.

Tammy
00:54:07

That's very true.

Tammy
00:54:09

Yeah.

Tammy
00:54:09

I really like Slow horses.

Tammy
00:54:11

I think they've had three full seasons now.

Tammy
00:54:14

Yeah.

Tammy
00:54:16

Diplomat with Kerry Russell and Rufus Sual.

Tammy
00:54:22

He's a British actor.

Dave
00:54:25

Rufus Sewell.

Tammy
00:54:26

Sewell.

Tammy
00:54:27

Thank you.

Tammy
00:54:30

Love it.

Dave
00:54:31

Me personally, flat out the best writing on television.

Tammy
00:54:36

My honest opinion was that your number one?

Dave
00:54:39

That is my number one.

Tammy
00:54:41

Wow.

Dave
00:54:41

So I'm just gonna jump in there.

Dave
00:54:43

Since you're playing willy nilly.

Dave
00:54:44

I'll go willy nilly with you.

Dave
00:54:45

So that is my number one.

Dave
00:54:46

That is, to me, the best writing on television.

Dave
00:54:49

It's sharp writing, it's superb acting, it's exceptional cinematography, which are all things that I look for in television.

Dave
00:54:58

And it blends global politics and personal drama with clever twists.

Dave
00:55:02

And again, exceptional writing.

Dave
00:55:05

I cannot say enough about.

Dave
00:55:08

I mean, in Keri Russell, I haven't always been the biggest Keri Russell fan.

Dave
00:55:12

Sorry, sorry.

Dave
00:55:14

But she just nails this and chews up the scenery and I'm in their hook, line and sinker.

Tammy
00:55:24

Yeah.

Tammy
00:55:25

I like her as a female lead.

Tammy
00:55:28

I started watching her in the Americans.

Dave
00:55:32

Yes.

Tammy
00:55:33

I saw just a few seasons of that and I.

Tammy
00:55:36

I really liked her.

Tammy
00:55:38

Really liked her.

Tammy
00:55:41

My next one is Presumed Innocent with Jake Gyllenhaal and Peter Skarsgard on Apple tv.

Dave
00:55:48

Babe, I completely forgot about that.

Dave
00:55:51

That was.

Dave
00:55:52

Yeah.

Dave
00:55:53

I'm an idiot.

Dave
00:55:54

Wow.

Dave
00:55:55

Can I insert a little secret?

Dave
00:55:58

Should I insert the secret that I told you about just before I came on the show?

Dave
00:56:02

It involves.

Tammy
00:56:03

Is he confirmed?

Dave
00:56:05

He is confirmed.

Dave
00:56:06

So Scott Turow, who wrote Presumed Innocent, wrote Presumed Guilty, his follow up, and we have just now booked him for February.

Tammy
00:56:15

That's fantastic.

Tammy
00:56:17

Yeah, that'll be a real interesting conversation.

Dave
00:56:21

And when I say February, it could be January, but currently it's February.

Dave
00:56:25

The book comes out on the 14th.

Tammy
00:56:27

Okay.

Dave
00:56:28

Cannot wait to read this.

Dave
00:56:29

My number nine.

Dave
00:56:32

I took just a moment to get this and I.

Dave
00:56:35

I think when I went into this, I'm like, okay, we'll see.

Dave
00:56:39

And it felt kind of forced at first, but then I kind of.

Dave
00:56:44

I lived with it for a while.

Dave
00:56:46

And it's one part western, one part sci fi, but wholly entertaining with two of my favorite actors, Josh Brolin and Lily Taylor, also Imogene Poots.

Dave
00:56:58

But the show is outer range, which was stunning.

Tammy
00:57:04

Yeah.

Tammy
00:57:05

And that subject matter feels like a easy go to.

Tammy
00:57:10

For you.

Tammy
00:57:11

We're going to talk about another series here in a minute.

Tammy
00:57:15

That.

Tammy
00:57:16

That follows that line about time and worlds and blending, you know, our timelines.

Tammy
00:57:25

So I can see why you would really like that.

Dave
00:57:28

And, you know, one of the reasons I Like it.

Dave
00:57:30

Besides the fact I think Josh Brolin is quite an actor and he pulls me.

Dave
00:57:36

I mean, I.

Dave
00:57:37

The very first one that popped in my head that I really, really enjoyed him and was no country for Old Men.

Tammy
00:57:44

But yeah.

Dave
00:57:46

It'S the fact that what the subject matter that you were going to call sci fi is steeped in reality, in my opinion.

Dave
00:57:56

I think, like we were talking, I was talking to Adam Hanby last week when we were talking about his book Deadbeat, but the one before that was the Other side of Night, which had to do with, I don't want to say time travel, but it, it bent some of the thinking about time and reality and so forth.

Dave
00:58:13

I'll just be very vague about it that way.

Dave
00:58:16

Yeah.

Dave
00:58:16

And I said to him, I'm like, you know, there's a whole lot more truth in that than I think your average bear might think.

Dave
00:58:21

And so time travel, the fact that Einstein says there, you know, time doesn't exist.

Dave
00:58:28

Bending time.

Dave
00:58:29

Christopher Nolan, I think of.

Dave
00:58:31

Etc.

Dave
00:58:33

I'm fascinated by that stuff.

Tammy
00:58:34

Yeah, you are.

Dave
00:58:35

Talk too much about him.

Tammy
00:58:37

You don't talk too much about it.

Tammy
00:58:39

Okay, your next one, Ripley.

Tammy
00:58:47

So Andrew Scott, he played, he was the cute pastor in Fleabag, and that was clearly a completely different role for him.

Tammy
00:59:01

And then to see him light up in Ripley, which is a really great backstory and then woven into the current, like, movie story of what we owe know what we all know of this character.

Tammy
00:59:21

I think it was really well done.

Dave
00:59:22

Netflix, I was gonna say, if you saw Matt Damon in the talented Mr.

Dave
00:59:28

Ripley, you will appreciate this story that is similar in structure but much more Hitchcockian in its style, especially given the fact that it's shot in high contrast, black and white.

Dave
00:59:40

If you know anything about me, you know I love films and I love the cinematography of films because it says so much about the message in the story.

Dave
00:59:49

It's simply superb.

Dave
00:59:50

And I have to admit, Tammy and I think you.

Dave
00:59:52

We talked about this.

Dave
00:59:53

It took me a while to stop seeing Jude Law in my mind as Dickie Greenleaf with this other character that I can't even remember his name, but.

Dave
01:00:02

And of course, and Matt Damon of course is referenced in my mind.

Dave
01:00:06

But this, because I think it was black and white and so noir and noirish with its Hitchcockian feel, made me appreciate it as its own story, apart from, you know, the way we grew up watching it, but man, just stunning.

Tammy
01:00:27

Yeah, I, I agree with, with your feedback.

Dave
01:00:31

And you'll notice we're both at number eight, so we're gonna jump onto your.

Tammy
01:00:34

Number seven, Griselda with Sofia Vergara.

Tammy
01:00:39

Do you remember that?

Dave
01:00:41

Yeah.

Tammy
01:00:42

Griselda was about the.

Tammy
01:00:45

I think she was Colombian drug dealer, crime boss.

Dave
01:00:51

Oh, yeah.

Tammy
01:00:53

And she completely lost herself in that role.

Tammy
01:00:59

I'd never watched her in the TV show she was on, and I'm not sure I was ever exposed to anything she'd been in before.

Tammy
01:01:08

But this was a series on Netflix and you and I both thought it was really well done.

Dave
01:01:14

Yeah, I did not include that, but, yeah, super.

Dave
01:01:19

My number seven stars a guy that I've enjoyed for years.

Dave
01:01:23

It was not only heartbreaking in many places, but equally heartwarming in so many others.

Dave
01:01:29

A story of Count Alexander Rostov is stripped of his title and material wealth and placed under house arrest for life in Grand Moscow Hotel.

Dave
01:01:39

A gentleman in Moscow.

Dave
01:01:41

And I think it could be McGregor's best acting to date and is certainly one of Amor Tolle's most engaging stories.

Dave
01:01:48

Just.

Dave
01:01:49

Just stunning and heartbreaking.

Tammy
01:01:52

I had that as joyful and light, and I think I had it as joyful and light because it was refreshing that it was really deep and it was emotional, but there wasn't any.

Tammy
01:02:09

Like, I didn't feel tension.

Tammy
01:02:11

A lot of times when we watch thrillers, whether it's a movie or a TV series, like, I can feel it's a little overwhelming tension that makes me feel uneasy.

Dave
01:02:23

Yeah.

Tammy
01:02:23

And the ride through Gentlemen of Moscow was really good.

Tammy
01:02:28

It had highs and lows and it tugged at my heart, but it never made me feel, like, anxious.

Dave
01:02:34

So good.

Dave
01:02:36

My number six now, and I think it's fourth season.

Dave
01:02:40

True Detective, Night Country.

Tammy
01:02:42

Yeah.

Dave
01:02:42

Starring Jody Foster in Alaska working a creepy investigation that is off the beaten path, to say the least.

Dave
01:02:49

Boy, we gobbled that one up, didn't we?

Tammy
01:02:51

Yeah, I.

Tammy
01:02:52

I really enjoyed it.

Tammy
01:02:53

I love that series.

Tammy
01:02:54

True Detective.

Tammy
01:02:55

I'm curious to see if they'll be back.

Tammy
01:02:58

And I thought that that team that did this last season did a great job.

Dave
01:03:04

Yeah.

Dave
01:03:04

The whole True Detective team seems to up themselves every single time.

Dave
01:03:09

And that's number four.

Dave
01:03:11

So, yeah.

Dave
01:03:11

It makes me wonder, will she come back for five or will they be a new one?

Dave
01:03:17

Because aren't Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson.

Tammy
01:03:24

Oh, I can see the gentleman's face, but I can't.

Dave
01:03:28

Is in Moonlight.

Tammy
01:03:29

Yeah.

Tammy
01:03:31

The third was Vince Vaughn and Colin Farrell.

Dave
01:03:35

Farrell, yeah.

Dave
01:03:36

Okay.

Tammy
01:03:36

And then Taylor Kirsch, I think.

Tammy
01:03:38

Tyler Kirsch.

Tammy
01:03:39

Taylor Kirsch.

Tammy
01:03:40

What's your number five Agency with Michael Fassbender, Richard Gere, Jeffrey Wright, Jody Turner.

Dave
01:03:48

Smith on Showtime that and Diplomat, two of my favorite shows on television.

Dave
01:03:57

Just stunning performances, stunning writing.

Tammy
01:04:01

Yeah, really.

Tammy
01:04:02

I mean we are.

Tammy
01:04:04

It's interesting with some of these shows that just release, they'll give you two or three episodes to get you sucked in and then they'll release one weekly.

Tammy
01:04:18

There's that fine line of let's just wait until they all load and then we can sit down and watch them.

Tammy
01:04:25

Like a couple of movies.

Tammy
01:04:27

This one would be hard to do that just because it's so good and we keep just wanting to.

Tammy
01:04:35

We look forward to.

Tammy
01:04:36

I think it's released on Fridays to watch it.

Tammy
01:04:38

So Agency.

Tammy
01:04:40

Yes.

Dave
01:04:41

My next one is Something is everything that you hope for in a Carl Hiaasen novel.

Dave
01:04:47

Humor, both dark and light, quirky plot points and laugh out loud humor.

Dave
01:04:53

The bonus being Vincent Vaughn, who literally eats the screen with nearly flawless delivery of wicked smart lines.

Dave
01:05:00

It's Bad Monkey.

Tammy
01:05:02

I love that too.

Tammy
01:05:04

I have this one down as a joyful and light series.

Tammy
01:05:10

Apple tv love it.

Tammy
01:05:12

I can't say enough good about it.

Dave
01:05:14

What's your next one?

Tammy
01:05:16

Black Doves with Keira Knightley on Netflix.

Dave
01:05:20

Is my number three savvy action thriller starring Keira Knightley.

Dave
01:05:25

As you said, Ben Whishaw Knightley is Helen married to British minister of Defense and has been spying on him for a mercenary company called the Black Doves.

Dave
01:05:35

So it's not only the spy story and suspense that pulls you in, but the talk but the take on love, loyalty and global politics.

Dave
01:05:42

It really was right up there neck and neck with the diplomat and they.

Tammy
01:05:48

Were true to the characters to the end.

Tammy
01:05:51

Sometimes when we watch shows, they'll wrap things up in a way that we'll look at one another and talk about was that really true to the character or was that more about leaving the audience with a happy bow or something else?

Tammy
01:06:12

They didn't do that in black dubs.

Tammy
01:06:15

They really tied the series up with each person's situation resolving itself in the true nature of the character.

Tammy
01:06:25

I thought they did a great job.

Dave
01:06:27

I think that you put it so well.

Dave
01:06:30

That really is one of my favorite things about that show.

Dave
01:06:32

And we made this comment, I think we're.

Dave
01:06:36

Yeah.

Dave
01:06:36

Because there is a couple that you expect.

Dave
01:06:41

They were together, they fell apart.

Dave
01:06:43

You think they're going to come back together.

Dave
01:06:45

And I thought I like the fact that such and such didn't happen because it would have been too perfectly a wound, a bow.

Dave
01:06:52

And yet they ended his particular story true to his life.

Dave
01:06:57

And yeah, just so well put.

Dave
01:07:00

Yeah.

Dave
01:07:00

My last one is, and I love the way that you're doing.

Dave
01:07:04

Light and joyful and so forth.

Dave
01:07:05

The one that is really as much as.

Dave
01:07:09

It reeks of pure sitcom structure and pacing, that all kind of fades into the background as it gives us humor, humanity and heart, plus some fine lessons for all of us to learn.

Dave
01:07:24

Starring Harrison Ford and Jason Siegel.

Dave
01:07:27

And shrinking.

Tammy
01:07:28

Yeah, that's on my.

Tammy
01:07:30

Joyful and light.

Dave
01:07:32

There's one that we always found ourselves if we were coming off of a dark.

Dave
01:07:37

Of course, you can see by now that Tammy and I both like probably predominantly on the darker side.

Dave
01:07:46

Superb writing, dark cinematography, etc.

Dave
01:07:49

But, boy, you want a little shot of lightness and something that you go, oh, let's.

Dave
01:07:53

Let's put on some shrinking.

Dave
01:07:55

And it's so funny that it usually clocks in around 33 to 38 minutes, which is pretty much standard for sitcom on streaming services.

Dave
01:08:04

And you find yourself every single time.

Dave
01:08:06

Oh, just another 10 minutes would have been so great.

Dave
01:08:09

And while Jason Siegel is kind of the main star, so to speak, it's Harrison Ford that surprises you with this humor.

Dave
01:08:18

But it's that Jessica Williams that is just a showstopper.

Dave
01:08:22

I.

Dave
01:08:23

I laugh out loud at the lines that she's given.

Tammy
01:08:27

Yeah, she's.

Tammy
01:08:29

She's great.

Tammy
01:08:30

There are several characters in there that they all have their moment in each episode.

Dave
01:08:37

And you always walk away with a little bit of a lesson, which.

Dave
01:08:40

Yeah.

Dave
01:08:40

Tell me how many shows you get to see that these days.

Tammy
01:08:44

Yeah.

Tammy
01:08:48

So I would have three more to talk about.

Dave
01:08:50

Okay.

Tammy
01:08:51

And a couple of ones that I really wanted to like.

Tammy
01:08:54

So we really enjoyed Old man with Jeff Bridges and John Lithgow, Amy Brennan, and I think that was on Hulu.

Tammy
01:09:02

I don't think from what you've shared, it'll be back for a third season.

Dave
01:09:07

No.

Dave
01:09:07

My Hollywood inside reporter told me that they are not renewing for number three.

Tammy
01:09:13

Great couple of seasons.

Tammy
01:09:14

And maybe that's exactly what should be the next course is that it just resolves itself and it lets the viewer determine how the rest of it is gonna play out.

Tammy
01:09:28

Like, sometimes that's nice, too.

Tammy
01:09:30

Like, we don't need to always understand the ending.

Tammy
01:09:35

We can create our own ending for what we think's gonna happen.

Dave
01:09:41

It's kind of like life, too, right?

Dave
01:09:43

I mean.

Dave
01:09:44

Yeah.

Tammy
01:09:44

Yeah.

Dave
01:09:45

I loved Jeff Bridges in that.

Tammy
01:09:47

Yeah.

Tammy
01:09:47

Dark Matter with Joel Edgerton and Jennifer Connelly on Apple tv.

Tammy
01:09:52

That is the series that I was.

Tammy
01:09:55

Was talking about when you were discussing Outer Range.

Tammy
01:09:58

That also had to do with that slippery slope of time.

Dave
01:10:03

Yeah.

Dave
01:10:05

Parallel Universe is Dune.

Tammy
01:10:07

Parallel universe Bad Sisters with Sharon Horgan and Fiona shaw and Owen McDonnell, who was Nico on Killing Eve on Apple TV.

Tammy
01:10:21

We really liked the first season.

Tammy
01:10:23

Came back for the second season.

Tammy
01:10:26

We both watched the first episode and thought.

Tammy
01:10:31

However, the other day, while you were out doing what you were doing, I turned it on and got through a couple more episodes.

Tammy
01:10:40

And I'll probably watch it to the end.

Tammy
01:10:42

I'm not sure it's something you'll jump, too.

Dave
01:10:45

Jumped the shark for me.

Tammy
01:10:47

Yeah.

Tammy
01:10:48

Yeah.

Tammy
01:10:50

What I really wanted to, like.

Tammy
01:10:52

I really wanted to, like, Perfect Couple with Nicole Kidman and leave Shriver on Netflix.

Dave
01:10:59

That's such a good.

Tammy
01:11:01

I couldn't do it.

Dave
01:11:02

Such a great way to put it.

Dave
01:11:04

I.

Dave
01:11:04

You and I both were like.

Dave
01:11:06

We sat down.

Dave
01:11:06

Literally.

Dave
01:11:07

Folks like this.

Dave
01:11:08

We sat down.

Dave
01:11:08

Oh, my goodness.

Dave
01:11:09

Okay.

Dave
01:11:09

Two great actors.

Dave
01:11:10

We.

Dave
01:11:11

Yeah.

Dave
01:11:12

And we're maybe halfway through it and we're looking at each other going, what?

Tammy
01:11:19

Yeah.

Tammy
01:11:20

We tried the Man In Full with Jeff Daniels and Diane Lane on Netflix.

Tammy
01:11:26

Another one.

Tammy
01:11:28

I think we saw it through all the way to.

Tammy
01:11:33

Up until the last episode.

Tammy
01:11:35

You watched the last episode?

Tammy
01:11:37

I didn't.

Tammy
01:11:38

I just thought my time.

Tammy
01:11:39

My time is worth more than sitting here.

Tammy
01:11:42

And it wasn't for seven episodes.

Tammy
01:11:45

But then all of a sudden I was like, man, you crossed my line.

Tammy
01:11:48

I'm done.

Dave
01:11:49

Yeah.

Dave
01:11:49

And I hate to say it because I really enjoyed the Thomas Wolf novel upon which it was based, but.

Dave
01:11:56

And Jeff Bridges, Jeff Daniels, Daniels.

Dave
01:12:01

I.

Dave
01:12:02

I'm his biggest.

Dave
01:12:03

One of his top 100 biggest fans.

Tammy
01:12:06

Yeah.

Dave
01:12:06

But geez, that thing was.

Tammy
01:12:10

Yeah, we are enjoying Lioness.

Dave
01:12:14

Love Lioness.

Tammy
01:12:15

Yeah, we're really enjoying that right now, I'm telling you.

Dave
01:12:18

What did I say to you last night?

Dave
01:12:19

It's so nice to see women toting the guns and kicking the ass.

Tammy
01:12:25

It's what we do.

Tammy
01:12:26

David.

Tammy
01:12:27

Looking forward to 2025.

Tammy
01:12:30

Apple is coming out with a series called the Studio with Seth Rogen, Katherine Hahn, Bryan Cranston, Paul Dano.

Dave
01:12:38

Yes.

Tammy
01:12:39

I mean, all great actors.

Tammy
01:12:40

And I think it's going to be funny.

Tammy
01:12:42

It's about a movie studio.

Tammy
01:12:43

It's kind of defunct.

Tammy
01:12:45

And I think Seth Rogen's character is the one that's kind of in charge of bringing it back.

Dave
01:12:51

Yeah.

Tammy
01:12:52

I do like the morning show that's going to come back on Apple tv.

Tammy
01:12:56

I'm curious to see what they're going to do.

Tammy
01:13:00

The first season was so meaty, and I really liked it.

Tammy
01:13:04

And then I think it's the last couple of seasons.

Dave
01:13:09

I'm really surprised it's coming back.

Dave
01:13:11

It felt like it had Done everything it needed to do.

Dave
01:13:14

Now, what it feels like to me, this is just, my honest opinion is like, well, look at all the great stars we have in it.

Dave
01:13:21

And it was, it did this and then it did this and then it did this.

Dave
01:13:25

I'm like, yeah, you should stop there because I have a feeling it's going to do this, which is up, down, up, down.

Dave
01:13:30

And I feel like it's going to go well.

Dave
01:13:33

It's making so much money.

Dave
01:13:35

Yeah.

Tammy
01:13:36

Well, we'll find out.

Dave
01:13:38

Yeah.

Tammy
01:13:38

And then last one is Big Little Lies.

Tammy
01:13:43

I like the first season.

Tammy
01:13:44

I'm curious to see what they're going to do next.

Dave
01:13:46

Yeah.

Dave
01:13:47

All right.

Dave
01:13:47

I know that we're crunched on time for you because you have a conference call to jump onto.

Dave
01:13:53

So let's move on to our top 10 films of 2024.

Dave
01:13:57

And I happen to know because I was looking at your notes over your shoulder.

Tammy
01:14:01

Cheater.

Dave
01:14:01

Well, I, you and I both share the same number one.

Dave
01:14:05

And I, I, I'm listing mine as, you know, ten to one.

Dave
01:14:10

But, you know, I can go freestyle or otherwise.

Dave
01:14:13

Now if you, however you want to do it.

Dave
01:14:15

If you'd like to start, please, you can start.

Dave
01:14:18

You can start at the top and work down or it doesn't really matter, does it?

Tammy
01:14:22

No, go for it.

Tammy
01:14:24

I probably have another buzz kill caveat here about movies, and that is I wasn't really impressed with the options this year.

Dave
01:14:36

No.

Dave
01:14:37

So I had to work to get my 10.

Dave
01:14:39

Honey.

Tammy
01:14:40

Yeah.

Tammy
01:14:40

And I'm not even sure I have 10.

Tammy
01:14:42

I think I had to break some up into Joyful and Light to get there.

Tammy
01:14:46

But also the other thing I saw was a lot of movies were deemed thriller, but they really felt more like horror.

Dave
01:14:57

Yeah.

Dave
01:14:58

Yeah.

Tammy
01:14:59

You know, I, I like a good spook.

Tammy
01:15:02

I love a good spook.

Tammy
01:15:06

Some of what's out there, it's just, I just don't have a taste for it.

Tammy
01:15:10

So I, I did it this way.

Tammy
01:15:13

I did thrillers and then I did some Joyful and Light.

Tammy
01:15:19

What I'm looking forward to in 2025.

Dave
01:15:23

All right.

Dave
01:15:23

I just did the 10 that, that I, that I picked out.

Dave
01:15:27

And I, there's, and I, and I filled the law.

Dave
01:15:32

I filled the list with a couple that I'm like.

Dave
01:15:34

But I needed 10 because I'm a rule follower.

Tammy
01:15:37

Right.

Tammy
01:15:37

Okay.

Tammy
01:15:38

So you want me to go?

Dave
01:15:39

Yeah, start with you.

Dave
01:15:40

Number 10.

Tammy
01:15:41

We made a point to watch Monkey Man.

Tammy
01:15:44

It's a Dev Patel and Jordan Peele movie.

Tammy
01:15:48

It was totally action packed.

Tammy
01:15:49

It was a great story and I was super Impressed by Dev Patel.

Tammy
01:15:55

Monkey Man.

Dave
01:15:57

Yeah.

Dave
01:15:57

I call it John Wick meets Fight Club.

Tammy
01:16:00

There you go.

Dave
01:16:01

Yeah.

Dave
01:16:01

And Dove.

Dave
01:16:02

That is his directorial debut.

Dave
01:16:05

And folks, God, I thought the guy could act.

Dave
01:16:08

Well, he can direct too.

Dave
01:16:10

And they asked because they knew it was going to be so successful, would he direct a sequel?

Dave
01:16:14

And he goes, no, I don't want to do another one.

Dave
01:16:16

This was the story I wanted to do and I'm done.

Tammy
01:16:19

Oh, good.

Dave
01:16:19

Yeah.

Dave
01:16:20

But he.

Dave
01:16:20

He crushed it.

Dave
01:16:21

Monkey man was my number seven.

Tammy
01:16:23

Okay.

Dave
01:16:25

My number 10 was because of her performance.

Dave
01:16:29

And I've been watching her since I was in college for sure.

Dave
01:16:34

Was it high school?

Dave
01:16:35

I'm guessing Demi Moore in the substance.

Dave
01:16:39

Now, it's a movie that not everyone's gonna like.

Dave
01:16:43

It is bizarre as hail.

Dave
01:16:47

But I was so impressed with her performance, vulnerability, and the bizarreness of the story that I don't think I've ever seen anything quite.

Dave
01:17:01

Quite like this.

Dave
01:17:02

I give her my number 10.

Tammy
01:17:05

I agree with you on Demi Moore's performance.

Tammy
01:17:08

I had been looking forward to watching this movie, and I will say, when it started out, you and I looked at one another and commented about, oh, this is going to be an artsy film.

Tammy
01:17:21

This is.

Tammy
01:17:21

This is cool.

Dave
01:17:22

Yeah.

Tammy
01:17:23

How interesting the way that they did shots and stuff like that.

Dave
01:17:28

Very Kubrick esque.

Tammy
01:17:30

Yeah.

Tammy
01:17:31

I'm still struggling to understand the moral.

Tammy
01:17:34

What is the takeaway?

Tammy
01:17:36

And maybe that's the point.

Tammy
01:17:38

I'm supposed to come up with my own takeaway, my own moral to the story.

Tammy
01:17:44

I'm gonna leave it there as far as.

Tammy
01:17:48

I'm just gonna let that go because I was really impressed with Demi Moore's performance.

Tammy
01:17:53

She was just amazing.

Dave
01:17:55

She was.

Dave
01:17:56

I have great respect for her.

Tammy
01:17:58

Yep.

Dave
01:17:59

What's your number nine?

Tammy
01:18:02

Wolfs.

Dave
01:18:03

Yeah.

Tammy
01:18:05

I really looked forward to this movie too.

Tammy
01:18:07

Brad Pitt and George Clooney.

Tammy
01:18:09

I wanted to love this movie, but I didn't.

Tammy
01:18:15

It just kind of fell flat for me.

Tammy
01:18:18

Kind of a good storyline and I like their banter in it.

Tammy
01:18:27

I just was left feeling a little flat.

Dave
01:18:31

It's funny.

Dave
01:18:31

We both shared number nine.

Dave
01:18:34

However, I liked it much more than you did.

Dave
01:18:36

I liked it because I really like George Clooney.

Dave
01:18:41

I've always been a Brad Pitt fan.

Dave
01:18:43

I like the fact that they were kind of poking fun at the genre cleanup guys.

Tammy
01:18:51

Yeah.

Dave
01:18:52

I like the way it was shot.

Dave
01:18:54

It was artfully done.

Dave
01:18:55

I think Smokehouse, which is George Clooney's shop, did it probably with part of Brad's as well.

Dave
01:19:05

Plan B.

Dave
01:19:06

But I really enjoyed it.

Dave
01:19:08

Did it?

Dave
01:19:09

Did it satisfy to the Instagram?

Dave
01:19:11

No, but I wasn't looking at it to satisfy me.

Dave
01:19:14

I was expecting more.

Dave
01:19:16

And yet the ride.

Dave
01:19:17

I was in for the ride.

Dave
01:19:18

I took the popcorn, I went for the ride.

Dave
01:19:20

Yeah.

Tammy
01:19:20

Awesome.

Tammy
01:19:21

You.

Dave
01:19:22

My number eight is Horizon by Kevin Costner.

Dave
01:19:25

And I think what I like the most about it is, first of all, I think he is on his own role.

Dave
01:19:32

You know, Taylor Sheridan is the talk of the town.

Dave
01:19:34

Every time he turns around, he's got another TV series and he's doing it well.

Dave
01:19:39

But Kevin Costner.

Dave
01:19:40

What I like about Kevin Costner in this role is you can tell that he inhabits it not only from the standpoint of his acting, but he's.

Dave
01:19:50

He's laying all his.

Dave
01:19:52

A lot of his own cash on the line to get his dream fulfilled.

Dave
01:19:56

And as a closet cinema filmmaker, I.

Dave
01:20:00

I can relate to that.

Dave
01:20:01

The story is also timely and, you know, reminds me of some of the Taylor Sheridan stuff.

Dave
01:20:08

It just has a slightly different, you know, take.

Tammy
01:20:11

I agree.

Tammy
01:20:12

Horizon is a movie that I really enjoyed.

Tammy
01:20:16

I believe I watched it twice because I.

Tammy
01:20:20

I wanted to catch everything.

Tammy
01:20:22

I'm enjoying the history part of it.

Tammy
01:20:25

I like seeing his.

Tammy
01:20:28

How he's bringing history to life.

Tammy
01:20:32

It's why I enjoyed 1883 with.

Tammy
01:20:35

With Sheridan again, just the historical perspective.

Tammy
01:20:40

And I'm really looking forward to Horizon 2 when that comes out.

Tammy
01:20:44

I hope it's going to come out in 2025.

Dave
01:20:46

I think so.

Tammy
01:20:47

Yeah.

Dave
01:20:48

We've already jumped over My Monkey man, which was seven, so I'll go right to my number six, which was a documentary that I mentioned on the show recently with Adam Hanby is probably one of the most powerful documentaries I've seen in a while because it's so heartfelt and so real.

Dave
01:21:03

You take a.

Dave
01:21:05

One of the biggest comedians of our time and a little known person who is one of the head writers on snl put them together, which is Will Ferrell and.

Tammy
01:21:19

Steel.

Dave
01:21:20

What's that?

Tammy
01:21:21

Harper Steel.

Dave
01:21:22

Harper Steele.

Dave
01:21:23

Thank you.

Dave
01:21:23

Which is her new name.

Dave
01:21:25

She transitioned to transgender.

Dave
01:21:28

But the movie is Will and Harper.

Dave
01:21:30

And I was.

Dave
01:21:31

I was in out of the Gate.

Dave
01:21:32

I was in before I even saw the trailer because it was a premise that I thought, this is interesting.

Dave
01:21:37

So it's a road trip between two old buddies who are now still two old buddies, just in a slightly different way.

Dave
01:21:45

And they go from New York to Santa Monica and it's just so rich.

Tammy
01:21:50

The backstory on the cross country trip is before Harper had transitioned, he at the time enjoyed driving cross country.

Tammy
01:22:03

It was cathartic thing.

Tammy
01:22:05

He Grew up in Iowa City, Iowa and as a guy he could roll into any dive bar in a small town, oil town, cowboy town, and he could hold his own.

Tammy
01:22:18

He would be fine.

Tammy
01:22:20

And when he transitioned to Harper Steel, that was her concern is now I, I still like that road trip environment.

Tammy
01:22:30

It's still how I process and, and what I enjoy experiencing and seeing the United States.

Tammy
01:22:36

But how will I be accepted?

Tammy
01:22:38

And that is what Will came along for.

Tammy
01:22:42

And what they experience is, is heartwarming.

Tammy
01:22:47

It's sad.

Tammy
01:22:48

They're both really vulnerable and you know your heart aches for this, for this person.

Tammy
01:22:56

So I enjoyed that.

Tammy
01:22:58

It wasn't about Will Ferrell the celebrity that it.

Tammy
01:23:03

We saw Will Ferrell the person trying to support his friend.

Dave
01:23:08

I love your backstory.

Dave
01:23:09

So thank you for sharing that.

Dave
01:23:10

That's so perfect.

Dave
01:23:11

And Will, if you're looking for a movie about Will Ferrell the comedian, this is not it.

Dave
01:23:17

He had one moment that was Will Ferrell and it's classic Will.

Dave
01:23:20

However, the thing that happened, what he was doing in this particular scene about halfway through the movie, which is about halfway through the country.

Dave
01:23:31

His response the next day is heartbreaking.

Dave
01:23:35

And it's, it's just a powerful story.

Dave
01:23:36

I don't care how you fall on either side of the aisle of sexual preference, etc, I'll just be generic there.

Dave
01:23:48

I don't care.

Dave
01:23:49

It's a great story, well told and it's worth a watch.

Tammy
01:23:52

Yeah.

Tammy
01:23:53

What's your next one under the joyful and light category?

Tammy
01:23:58

My Old Ass with Audrey Plaza.

Tammy
01:24:03

Is that an awesome title or what?

Dave
01:24:05

It's so good.

Dave
01:24:07

Go ahead, give me why you liked it.

Tammy
01:24:09

I like Audrey Plaza.

Tammy
01:24:12

I think I first became aware of her in I think it was the show Parks and Rec.

Tammy
01:24:18

She played Chris Pratt's girlfriend.

Dave
01:24:20

Yeah.

Tammy
01:24:21

She always kind of has this bitey attitude and kind of behavior snarky.

Tammy
01:24:28

And then we saw her again in White Lotus.

Tammy
01:24:31

So when this popped up, this is about an her 18 year old self.

Tammy
01:24:37

She goes off on a mushroom trip and she calls in her 39 year old self.

Tammy
01:24:43

And the 39 year old self is giving her some life advice before she rolls off to college.

Tammy
01:24:52

Really touching, really sweet, fabulous ending.

Tammy
01:24:57

And if you want to get away from the tension of thrillers or the shoot em up bang bang of some of the stuff we're talking about.

Tammy
01:25:06

That was a refreshing switch.

Dave
01:25:09

Yeah.

Dave
01:25:10

I thoroughly love it was funny as heck and thoroughly original.

Tammy
01:25:15

Yeah.

Dave
01:25:15

And I watched it because of her.

Dave
01:25:17

I didn't care what it was about.

Dave
01:25:19

When I saw that she was in I'M like, I'm watching it because I'll watch anything.

Dave
01:25:21

She's in.

Dave
01:25:22

The only thing that is a little bit of a challenge and I don't want to spoil it for you, but there's a moment as we near the end of the film that happens and it does make you scratch your head a little bit.

Dave
01:25:35

I don't want to overanalyze it because then that takes away some of its fun.

Dave
01:25:39

I'll just leave it to say that it will leave you scratching your head and wondering.

Dave
01:25:45

However, you're left with the positivity of the story and the message and just, just good.

Dave
01:25:52

Just good fun.

Dave
01:25:53

Yeah.

Tammy
01:25:53

Yeah, I thought it was good.

Dave
01:25:55

That was my number two.

Dave
01:25:56

Okay, what's your next one?

Tammy
01:25:58

Oh, I can go again.

Tammy
01:26:00

Fly Me to the Moon with Scarlett Johansson and Channing Tatum Again under the joyful and light.

Tammy
01:26:08

Do you remember this one?

Dave
01:26:09

Oh, sure.

Dave
01:26:10

It's not mine on my list because it was fun and fresh and popcorny, but more cotton candy, so even less substance for me.

Dave
01:26:17

It was fun, but I didn't make my list.

Tammy
01:26:20

Yeah, I really liked it.

Tammy
01:26:23

NASA launch director.

Tammy
01:26:27

It's all set up.

Tammy
01:26:28

It's set against the Apollo 11 mission.

Tammy
01:26:32

And basically they wanted to have a backdrop of the landing in studio in case something happened and they weren't able to capture the real landing on the moon.

Tammy
01:26:47

And Scarlett Johansson is the marketing media mogul with a little bit of a sordid past.

Tammy
01:26:54

And Channing Tatum is an astronaut.

Dave
01:26:57

Yeah.

Tammy
01:26:57

Great.

Tammy
01:26:58

Little bit of love tension.

Tammy
01:26:59

And like you said, it was, it was light and fluffy and that's why I liked it.

Dave
01:27:05

Light and fluffy works.

Dave
01:27:07

My Speaking of light and fluffy, combining two things I really like spy thrillers and comedy argyle.

Tammy
01:27:14

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tammy
01:27:18

That was really cute.

Tammy
01:27:19

I liked it too.

Dave
01:27:20

And then again, I'm going to jump ahead because I know we're crushing on Time is a feel good movie.

Dave
01:27:26

So it's 19.

Dave
01:27:27

It's 2015.

Dave
01:27:28

Costa Rica.

Dave
01:27:29

The American runner Michael Light and his adventure racing team get stuck on the first day after he makes the port decision to kayak against the tide.

Dave
01:27:38

But a furry friend enters the picture and that's what grabs you by the heart and doesn't let go.

Dave
01:27:44

It's called Arthur the King.

Tammy
01:27:48

Great, great story.

Tammy
01:27:51

Joyful and light.

Dave
01:27:52

If you don't like this story, you don't have a heart beating in your chest.

Dave
01:27:58

You're doomed to hell.

Dave
01:28:00

The end.

Dave
01:28:01

Mic drop.

Tammy
01:28:02

Not Joyful and Light.

Dave
01:28:03

Merry Christmas.

Dave
01:28:04

Yeah.

Dave
01:28:07

What's your next one?

Tammy
01:28:08

Well, it'd be down to our number one Well, I still have left.

Dave
01:28:12

I have.

Dave
01:28:13

I have three, because we've already covered two, which is mild ass.

Dave
01:28:17

So three.

Dave
01:28:17

Number three is the fall guy.

Dave
01:28:19

And there's three reasons why I loved the fall guy.

Dave
01:28:22

Ryan Gosling, Emily Blunt, and how it was both funny and familiar.

Dave
01:28:28

Taking a.

Dave
01:28:29

A lean from the original, but it was just, it was still light and fun and.

Dave
01:28:34

And I enjoy it.

Dave
01:28:35

It's just, you know.

Tammy
01:28:37

Yeah, I agree.

Dave
01:28:40

Yeah, I did.

Dave
01:28:41

My old ass was number two.

Dave
01:28:43

And I'm gonna wrap up with the number one that we both share.

Dave
01:28:47

And I'm going to say it's because of the main actress who is superb and it was so incredibly well done.

Dave
01:28:53

But I'm gonna let my lovely wife give the title and the reason and the story.

Tammy
01:28:58

Oh, I'll carry this one.

Tammy
01:29:00

Thank you.

Tammy
01:29:01

It was Civil War with Kirsten Dunst and her husband Jesse Plemons.

Tammy
01:29:07

Dystopian Future America.

Tammy
01:29:10

Team of military embedded journalists.

Tammy
01:29:13

They are headed to Washington D.C.

Tammy
01:29:17

to the White House, where some rebels are going to attack the White House.

Tammy
01:29:22

And it's about their journey from, I think it's New York all the way to DC and the characters they meet.

Tammy
01:29:32

At the time, it felt really familiar.

Tammy
01:29:36

Like, is this a little insightful as far as, like how our country felt feels?

Tammy
01:29:46

It kept me engaged.

Tammy
01:29:47

It provoked a lot of conversation.

Tammy
01:29:50

After the movie between the two of us, I just, I thought it was great.

Dave
01:29:53

It was great.

Dave
01:29:55

I only have one single thing left.

Dave
01:29:57

And it is only is.

Dave
01:30:00

It would be in my wanted to love but couldn't quite love it enough list.

Dave
01:30:05

And I only created this because you have some of those.

Dave
01:30:08

So it did not make my top 10.

Dave
01:30:10

I wanted it to make my top 10.

Dave
01:30:13

I mean, but it left me non plussed.

Dave
01:30:16

And this is a lot coming from a guy who man crushes on Ryan Reynolds almost as much as he does over the other Ryan Gosling.

Tammy
01:30:24

Yeah.

Dave
01:30:25

Which is Deadpool.

Dave
01:30:26

I wanted to love it so much.

Dave
01:30:27

Deadpool and Wolverine.

Dave
01:30:30

But for some reason it just didn't land with me like the first Deadpools, which was just laugh out loud friggin brilliant.

Tammy
01:30:39

Yeah, yeah, I would agree.

Tammy
01:30:41

And it was quite long.

Dave
01:30:43

It was too long.

Dave
01:30:44

It was too much.

Dave
01:30:45

It was.

Dave
01:30:46

It was just too much.

Dave
01:30:47

But.

Dave
01:30:47

And they had spent what felt like months and months and months and months advertising it.

Dave
01:30:51

I don't take anything away from that.

Dave
01:30:53

Yeah, I love me some Deadpool.

Dave
01:30:54

So it's not, it's not that.

Dave
01:30:56

It's just that it was.

Dave
01:30:57

It was so overhyped and so over the top and would not Stop that.

Dave
01:31:04

I literally, I think while maybe even before they were rolling credits, I'm like, okay, enough already.

Dave
01:31:10

Right?

Dave
01:31:11

So, yeah, love Ryan Reynolds.

Dave
01:31:13

I mean, I wish he was my brother, but, yeah, that just didn't work out.

Dave
01:31:18

All right, what else do you have?

Dave
01:31:20

Is that it?

Tammy
01:31:20

Let's talk about what is coming in 2025 that we're stoked about.

Dave
01:31:26

Brilliant.

Tammy
01:31:27

Jason Bourne.

Tammy
01:31:29

Yes.

Tammy
01:31:30

The final.

Dave
01:31:31

The final one with Matt Damon.

Dave
01:31:33

Final.

Dave
01:31:34

Final.

Tammy
01:31:34

Mission Impossible.

Dave
01:31:36

Can't get enough of Mission impossible.

Tammy
01:31:40

The accountant 2.

Dave
01:31:42

Interesting.

Tammy
01:31:44

Den of Thieves 2.

Dave
01:31:46

Oh, my love of Pete.

Dave
01:31:49

You're kidding me.

Dave
01:31:50

Yes.

Tammy
01:31:51

I'm not kidding.

Tammy
01:31:52

How awesome is that?

Tammy
01:31:53

I know you're excited.

Dave
01:31:55

So excited.

Tammy
01:31:56

F1 with Brad Pitt.

Dave
01:31:58

Oh, that's gonna be stunning.

Tammy
01:32:02

And then there are four.

Tammy
01:32:04

A couple of them are out now.

Tammy
01:32:06

So one is Real Pain.

Tammy
01:32:08

We're talking about seeing this.

Tammy
01:32:09

It's Jesse Eisenberg, Kiernan Culkin, and it's about a couple of mismatched cousins that I think they go off to Poland to meet their grandmother's family or something like that.

Tammy
01:32:19

I really like Kiernan Culkin.

Tammy
01:32:22

I know you do too.

Tammy
01:32:23

And Jesse Eisenberg is.

Tammy
01:32:26

Is funny.

Tammy
01:32:26

So this should be fun.

Tammy
01:32:28

Conclave with Ralph Fiennes.

Dave
01:32:33

Ray Fiennes.

Tammy
01:32:34

Ray Fiennes.

Tammy
01:32:34

Thank you.

Tammy
01:32:35

Stanley Tucci.

Tammy
01:32:36

John Lithgow.

Tammy
01:32:37

Isabella Rossellini.

Tammy
01:32:39

This is about Cardinal.

Tammy
01:32:44

I have it here.

Tammy
01:32:45

Sorry, excuse me.

Tammy
01:32:47

Cardinal Thomas Lawrence organizes a papal conclave to elect the next pope and finds himself investigating secrets and scandals about each candidate.

Tammy
01:32:59

Now, because of all of the actors that are in it, and I think the storyline sounds pretty interesting.

Tammy
01:33:06

I'm.

Tammy
01:33:07

I'm excited to see that.

Tammy
01:33:10

September 5th.

Tammy
01:33:12

This is with Peter Skarsgard.

Tammy
01:33:15

This is about the 1972 Munich Olympics.

Tammy
01:33:20

And instead of seeing this from the victim's family's perspective or the terrorist perspective, we're now going to see it by the sports broadcaster.

Tammy
01:33:32

Plural perspective.

Tammy
01:33:36

Remember Jim McKay from the Wide World of Sports?

Dave
01:33:39

100%.

Tammy
01:33:40

Yeah.

Tammy
01:33:41

And all of his other stuff.

Tammy
01:33:43

I just remember Wide World of Sports.

Tammy
01:33:45

But he.

Tammy
01:33:46

He has a significant presence during that time.

Tammy
01:33:50

And I can't remember the amount of hours that he sat and was broadcasting.

Tammy
01:33:57

So that, to me sounds really exciting.

Tammy
01:34:01

And then lastly, alto King.

Tammy
01:34:04

So Barry Levinson.

Tammy
01:34:06

I don't know the last time we've seen anything from Barry Levinson.

Dave
01:34:10

Geez.

Dave
01:34:10

The guy who brought us Diner, right?

Tammy
01:34:13

And sleepers and a lot of great material.

Tammy
01:34:18

So he's going to come back with a crime family saga.

Tammy
01:34:22

And I think this is about two real life crime families in New York.

Tammy
01:34:29

I'm not sure when that's going to release in 2025, but September 5th comes out soon.

Tammy
01:34:37

Conclave is out and Real, real Pain is out.

Dave
01:34:41

Cool.

Tammy
01:34:42

We will see that.

Dave
01:34:43

Looking forward to that.

Dave
01:34:44

Well, folks, as we start to wrap up the year, thank you so much for joining us here in 2024.

Dave
01:34:50

And Tammy, thank you so much for being there right next to me.

Tammy
01:34:53

Thank you for having, having me.

Dave
01:34:55

Always so fun.

Dave
01:34:56

So many people reach out and say, dude, why don't you have Tammy around more often?

Tammy
01:35:01

And I'm like, I am, I'm just in, I'm, I'm just in the other.

Dave
01:35:05

Room right there, right behind that door.

Dave
01:35:09

Well, I want to share just a couple of things.

Dave
01:35:11

We do have a whale coming in on January, as we mentioned, at the top of the show or near the middle of the show.

Dave
01:35:17

That is coming on January 16th.

Dave
01:35:20

That's coming.

Dave
01:35:20

We're also going to be doing, we're going to be adding some true crime stories to the show.

Dave
01:35:25

True crime, as we all know, has been just a monster of success over the last couple of years and we want to dip our toe in a pool.

Dave
01:35:33

Also, we're going to do some audio excerpts from your favorite thriller writers as we sprinkle it into the show.

Dave
01:35:39

Also, another thing I'm working on and I'm going to be reaching out to some of my listeners for their help.

Dave
01:35:45

This is still in development, but I'm calling it basically something like Thriller Podcast theater where we're going to be taking a scene from a favorite book, acting out one of the chapters, both with professionals and non, just for fun.

Dave
01:35:59

And then another thing we're doing is some audiobooks.

Dave
01:36:03

We're going to be doing audio excerpts and we never got around to it in 24, but we are in 25 and non fiction Friday.

Dave
01:36:11

So yeah, the show will drop on Thursdays and on occasion we'll have a Non Fiction Friday so that I can scratch the itch of my fandom of nonfiction books and without having to start a whole new show, which some of you guys know that I was talking about that I'm going to bring it here under the umbrella of the Thriller zone.

Dave
01:36:28

So I hope you will stick around for that.

Tammy
01:36:31

Well, all of that sounds very exciting.

Dave
01:36:34

Thank you.

Tammy
01:36:35

I just have one remaining question.

Dave
01:36:38

Yes.

Tammy
01:36:40

Are we going to see Chris Hottie on the show in 2025?

Dave
01:36:45

Chris Hottie may have gotten too big for us.

Dave
01:36:47

I don't know.

Tammy
01:36:49

Well, I don't have a book to read.

Tammy
01:36:53

I am all caught up on Chris Hottie material So I am hoping we'll have a Chris hottie sighting on the Thriller Zone.

Dave
01:37:01

I think there's a rumor of somewhere in the later summer to early fall that there's something in development, something happening.

Tammy
01:37:09

Something may be happening in his world.

Dave
01:37:11

And we do know that some of the other big authors out there have lots of books to drop and I'd love to share some of that.

Dave
01:37:17

Like the Ryan Stacks and the Simon Gervais and the Jack Carrs and Brad Thors.

Dave
01:37:23

I mean I could go on and on, but just know there's some a stack, a monstrous stack coming.

Tammy
01:37:31

What about some of your up and coming guys or guys that are not quite the Brad Thor, but they're not young and new?

Tammy
01:37:39

Will we see any of.

Tammy
01:37:42

Any of them?

Dave
01:37:43

Yes, we will.

Dave
01:37:44

There won't be a whole lot of debut authors this, this coming year for a number of different reasons.

Dave
01:37:51

We can drill down on another time.

Dave
01:37:53

But there will be some folks that are, yeah, not there at the, the, the head of the race, the top of the league.

Dave
01:37:59

But yeah, they're coming.

Dave
01:38:00

But we have, we have so many things jam packed into set.

Dave
01:38:03

Season eight coming in January.

Tammy
01:38:06

Crazy.

Dave
01:38:08

So folks, until we speak again, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, happy holidays, Happy new year.

Dave
01:38:16

Am I missing any of those?

Tammy
01:38:17

Happy anniversary.

Dave
01:38:18

Happy anniversary.

Dave
01:38:19

That's right.

Tammy
01:38:21

Number seven, dude.

Dave
01:38:22

Number seven, dude.

Dave
01:38:23

Lucky seven.

Dave
01:38:26

Such a good year.

Dave
01:38:27

Well, honey, thank you again for joining me.

Tammy
01:38:29

You're welcome.

Tammy
01:38:30

Thanks for having me.

Dave
01:38:31

I'm David Temple, your host.

Dave
01:38:32

I'll see you next time for another edition of the Thriller zone, your front.

Tammy
01:38:38

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